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DataGold
March 11th, 2009, 10:08 AM
I came across a video of the Commodore 64 Christmas Demo on YouTube and was wondering if anyone still had a copy on a 5 1/4 floppy

Tom

carlsson
March 11th, 2009, 02:23 PM
Perhaps it was the Christmas Album as you can find here?
http://zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/c64/demos/generic/poor/index.html

DataGold
March 12th, 2009, 10:44 AM
This may sound like a dumb question - but how would I go about getting those files onto my Commodore or a 5 1/4 floppy?

thanks

Tom

carlsson
March 12th, 2009, 11:25 AM
You need some way to transfer software:

1. An X-series cable (http://sta.c64.org/xcables.html), most practical today is a XM1541 or XA1541. It requires your PC has a parallel port. The cables can be made if you're handy with a soldering iron, or bought from some retro store or eBay. The software part is either Star Commander (http://sta.c64.org/sc.html) if you run an old DOS computer, or OpenCBM (http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencbm) if you run modern Windows or Linux.

2. You could also convert the software to a tape image, further to a sound file and record it onto a regular tape recorder. You'd need to have both a tape recorder with mic input and a Datassette C2N for the Commodore 64. Typical software I would use are WAV-PRG and Audiotap (http://wav-prg.sourceforge.net/).

3. An alternative combination of 1 and 2 is to build or buy (if you can find one) an X1531 cable (http://sta.c64.org/x1531.html). It will connect your C2N directly to the PC, eliminating the need of another tape recorder. It however may be a problem to find the proper connectors.

4. If you feel for spending some more money, you could get a sd2iec (http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SD2IEC) compatible memory card device, e.g. the uIEC (http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/uIEC) as currently sold by Jim Brain for $50/each: email brain (at) jbrain.com. It would allow you to transfer software on either a CF or SD memory card. These interfaces can also be built yourself but would be far more complex than wiring up the cables above.

There are even more expensive interfaces and devices, but I think those options are good to start with. There also are ways to interface the PC directly with the C64, like a null modem cable but since it would require wiring anyway I'd recommend getting a cable to connect a disk drive instead.

EddieDX4
March 13th, 2009, 01:55 PM
You need some way to transfer software:

1. An X-series cable (http://sta.c64.org/xcables.html), most practical today is a XM1541 or XA1541. It requires your PC has a parallel port. The cables can be made if you're handy with a soldering iron, or bought from some retro store or eBay. The software part is either Star Commander (http://sta.c64.org/sc.html) if you run an old DOS computer, or OpenCBM (http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencbm) if you run modern Windows or Linux.

2. You could also convert the software to a tape image, further to a sound file and record it onto a regular tape recorder. You'd need to have both a tape recorder with mic input and a Datassette C2N for the Commodore 64. Typical software I would use are WAV-PRG and Audiotap (http://wav-prg.sourceforge.net/).

3. An alternative combination of 1 and 2 is to build or buy (if you can find one) an X1531 cable (http://sta.c64.org/x1531.html). It will connect your C2N directly to the PC, eliminating the need of another tape recorder. It however may be a problem to find the proper connectors.

4. If you feel for spending some more money, you could get a sd2iec (http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/SD2IEC) compatible memory card device, e.g. the uIEC (http://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/uIEC) as currently sold by Jim Brain for $50/each: email brain (at) jbrain.com. It would allow you to transfer software on either a CF or SD memory card. These interfaces can also be built yourself but would be far more complex than wiring up the cables above.

There are even more expensive interfaces and devices, but I think those options are good to start with. There also are ways to interface the PC directly with the C64, like a null modem cable but since it would require wiring anyway I'd recommend getting a cable to connect a disk drive instead.

This should be a sticky (unless there's already a similar one...didn't really look before quoting this, hehe).

I have one of those cables I bought off eBay many years ago. Worked like a charm, but I think at some point I attempted to dissasemble it for some reason (needed it for something else, I think), and its current working state is unknown.

I think I just sort of stopped caring after my 128D got stolen. :(

billdeg
March 13th, 2009, 02:24 PM
Here is a link to how I do it using the MMC64 with RR-Net:
http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=85

I will upload a copy of the Christmas D64 to my web site in a few minutes. I think it's on the SX 64 demo disk.

UPDATE:
I was correct. I uploaded a copy of the SX-64 Test Demo Disk Here:
http://www.vintagecomputer.net/commodore/64/d64_library/utilities/sx64testdemo.d64

The SX-64 is just a regular C-64 with a built in drive and display. Once you get the program to your c64, the name of the file is: CHRISTMAS

bd

Terry Yager
March 13th, 2009, 04:18 PM
This should be a sticky (unless there's already a similar one...didn't really look before quoting this, hehe). :(

Someone more knowledgeable than myself should write an article in the Vintage-Computer Wiki. That's what it's there for.

http://wiki.vintage-computer.com/index.php/Main_Page

--T

carlsson
March 14th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Bill, is the version on the SX-64 Test/Demo disk different from the version found on Zimmers FTP?

billdeg
March 14th, 2009, 06:28 AM
I don't know, but my copy is an original CBM-labeled disk. I assume no, but someone will have to download both D64's and check. Back then a company would put out a disk with a program called "Chirstmas" and not fear repercussions, eh?

bd

carlsson
March 14th, 2009, 12:14 PM
They appear to be identical, the one on Zimmers even says Executive 64 on the first screen. I don't know what you mean by Chirstmas, but I haven't found any reference to a such misspelling.