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Unknown_K
October 13th, 2009, 11:58 AM
I don't know about you guys, but I seem to go through a bunch of floppy disks with my old PC systems and they seem to be getting harder to find.

I found this auction on ebay and purchased 2 of them:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170393555917

Seemed like a decent deal, now if I can find some DD disks that cheap I will be happy.

offensive_Jerk
October 13th, 2009, 01:50 PM
wow, thats a deal

carangil
October 13th, 2009, 02:27 PM
Is it just me, or are the older floppies built better?

I remember when I was a kid, I was using 1.44MB floppies to play games off of, and could play a game off a disk for several years, without going bad. I just built a 486, and I grabbed a bunch of my really old disks from my closet, and many of them are readable. Then I grabbed some newer ones (disks only a couple of years old), and most of them are unreadable. Sector not found on file after file.

Unknown_K
October 13th, 2009, 02:33 PM
Its like any other media, the early stuff was better engineered because it was expensive (profitable) while toward the end it was too cheap to bother with expensive QC.

I think the old blue dye CDR I used to pay $8 each for in bulk when CDR were cutting edge and expensive are better then the stuff you get now for $15 on sale for 50 pcs.

Quite a bit of old commercial software on 3.5" HD disks I have still works fine, but then that was made on an very expensive duplication machine that probably checked to make sure the format was 100% and done on duplication grade media, not the run of the mill junk they sold to consumers formatted on a cheap sheetmetal enclosed floppy drive.

If anything 5.25" drives and disks seem to last forever, 3.5" not so much.

nathan
October 13th, 2009, 02:34 PM
Nice find. I just ordered a box, we'll see how it goes.

No need to lament over the lack of DD disks though, Unknown_K - just tape over the hole on the 1.44MB HD floppy and you're set!

Unknown_K
October 13th, 2009, 02:40 PM
Nice find. I just ordered a box, we'll see how it goes.

No need to lament over the lack of DD disks though, Unknown_K - just tape over the hole on the 1.44MB HD floppy and you're set!

That doesn't work very well over the long term. I did purchase a bulk lot of 500 DD many years ago when I got into Amigas, still have 300 or so left (should have snagged more they were cheap then).

I have the bad luck of running them over with my chair when they fall over and I don't notice (if you leave anything on the table my cats like to toss them around). Originals are in drawers or their original boxes, but disks I use for drivers or moving files between old machines tend to sit around.

P.S. Same seller had stock of 100 disks also if 200 were too many. Shipping isn't double for multiple orders either.

Bobthearch
October 13th, 2009, 03:52 PM
I have enough floppy disks to last a while, but new floppy drives have become scarce. So I bought a bulk set of ten new OEM on eBay, came out to $2.50 each. Now I'm set for a long time!

offensive_Jerk
October 13th, 2009, 05:54 PM
I also had to buy a box. Looks like his stash is down to 5 boxes left. I think he had nine when I checked this post earlier today.

Anyone ever hear of this brand Primaris?

http://cgi.ebay.com/CASE-OF-100-NEW-3-5-INCH-1-44-MB-2HD-FORMATTED-DISKS_W0QQitemZ280406907204QQcategoryZ80136QQcmdZV iewItemQQ_trksidZp4012.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26i ts%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D20%26ps%3D63

nathan
October 13th, 2009, 06:07 PM
I just found out that I scored a bunch of 5.25" and 3.5" floppies on FreeCycle... The person I am getting them from was going to wipe them all but thankfully agreed to my request that they not wipe anything containing actual software. Needless to say, I'm more excited about what software I might find than the disks themselves!

offensive_Jerk
October 13th, 2009, 06:26 PM
I just found out that I scored a bunch of 5.25" and 3.5" floppies on FreeCycle... The person I am getting them from was going to wipe them all but thankfully agreed to my request that they not wipe anything containing actual software. Needless to say, I'm more excited about what software I might find than the disks themselves!
Let us know what you find!

Unknown_K
October 13th, 2009, 11:44 PM
I just found out that I scored a bunch of 5.25" and 3.5" floppies on FreeCycle... The person I am getting them from was going to wipe them all but thankfully agreed to my request that they not wipe anything containing actual software. Needless to say, I'm more excited about what software I might find than the disks themselves!

I don't like reusing old formatted and labled disks. When I get in a batch of used media I seperate the commercial disks (and unused ones if there are any) from the used stuff. When I get bored I look over the contents of the used ones, anything with bad sectors gets tossed.

FishFinger
October 14th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Is it just me, or are the older floppies built better?


When floppies started falling out of general use about 7-8 years ago the quality plummeted. And the poor quality only made people ditch them even faster. Same story with the drives as with the disks.

I've got hundreds of DD Amiga disks in the loft that still work perfectly. If you buy a box of ten today then chances are at least one of them is bad straight out of the packet.

carangil
October 14th, 2009, 09:32 AM
I think its time for me to buy an old 5.25 inch drive and a pack of ancient 1.2M disks.

I have a "new" PC that only boots from HDD and floppy, and if the HDD goes out, I need a reliable boot method. I went through a few bad disks trying to get a minimal cd-enabled dos 6.22 boot floppy to boot all the way without screaming 'sector not found.'

The disk that finally did work: an older-than-dirt 3.5 inch disk. (This disk was hand labeled Visual Basic 1.0 (This backup was make like 15 years ago!))

nathan
October 14th, 2009, 12:03 PM
Well picked up the FreeCycle floppy disks, and holy crap. You know those big boxes that copier paper comes in? Yeah, a full one of those...

Looks like lots of 1.44MB and 1.2MB, with some 360KB and 720KB in there as well. I haven't inventoried software yet but I did see DOS, Windows 3.0 and 3.1, Lotus 1-2-3, and some others. Seems like the guy was into technical trading; there is a lot of specialized financial software on there. The financial stuff isn't exactly all that useful to me but if any of it is true 'abandonware' (i.e. no legal owner), maybe Vetusware will take it.

Unknown_K
October 14th, 2009, 09:08 PM
That guy sold out, wonder when he will get around to shipping all those boxes.

offensive_Jerk
October 14th, 2009, 09:34 PM
i wonder where he got them.
His other items for sale are all weird things.

Mike Chambers
October 14th, 2009, 09:53 PM
Its like any other media, the early stuff was better engineered because it was expensive (profitable) while toward the end it was too cheap to bother with expensive QC.

I think the old blue dye CDR I used to pay $8 each for in bulk when CDR were cutting edge and expensive are better then the stuff you get now for $15 on sale for 50 pcs.

Quite a bit of old commercial software on 3.5" HD disks I have still works fine, but then that was made on an very expensive duplication machine that probably checked to make sure the format was 100% and done on duplication grade media, not the run of the mill junk they sold to consumers formatted on a cheap sheetmetal enclosed floppy drive.

If anything 5.25" drives and disks seem to last forever, 3.5" not so much.

the big reason that the 5.25" disks last longer is that the bits on the disk are not packed nearly as close together as 3.5" disks. less data storage capacity on larger physical disks means that it is not as prone to read errors as the material begins to degrade.

Unknown_K
October 14th, 2009, 10:28 PM
i wonder where he got them.
His other items for sale are all weird things.

Same place other people find them, the company stock room when nobody is looking! ;)

I bet quite a few companies have a stash of old floppy disks never used from when they purchased them in bulk in the 90's and burried them under other junk.

Unknown_K
October 17th, 2009, 07:01 AM
The boxes just showed up, didn't know Fedex delivered on Saturday. Anybody get a partial refund on shipping like I did (only a couple dollars)?

offensive_Jerk
October 17th, 2009, 10:33 AM
Not sure if mine came yet.

offensive_Jerk
October 17th, 2009, 01:05 PM
The boxes just showed up, didn't know Fedex delivered on Saturday. Anybody get a partial refund on shipping like I did (only a couple dollars)?

He sent me a message with the shipping about, but it was like 40 cents over.

I dont think he will reimburse for that, :shock: but I like how this guy operates.

fred3rd
October 21st, 2009, 05:31 PM
The boxes just showed up, didn't know Fedex delivered on Saturday. Anybody get a partial refund on shipping like I did (only a couple dollars)?

Yes I goy my floppies and a 68 cent shipping refund. I believe the shipping was estimated and excess of actual was to be refunded.

linuxlove
October 27th, 2009, 07:52 AM
sorta related, i got a BUNCH of 5 1/4" floppy disks from my grandad. Did a full countup and after mixing in the ones i already had, there is a grand total of 190 floppy disks. Some seem really interesting such as Visual Basic 1.0. There's also lots of copies of Disk 2 from Windows/386 for no apparent reason. So i think i'm good for floppes for a good while :D

wolfie
October 27th, 2009, 09:22 AM
i have 2 brand new boxes of 5 1/4 floppies. i think i got them for like 50 cents a box. i have 4 boxes of 5 1/4 in total. 40 5 1/4 floppies. i don't use them too much. i like using the 3 1/2 floppies because they are a lot easier to find.

wolfie
October 27th, 2009, 02:11 PM
i just found a box full of floppies on my way home from the grocerie store. looks like someone tried to sell them at a garage sale but they did not sell. i think i'm now set for life.
Top rows
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Unknown_K
October 27th, 2009, 03:01 PM
i just found a box full of floppies on my way home from the grocerie store. looks like someone tried to sell them at a garage sale but they did not sell. i think i'm now set for life.
Top rows
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_u26Z1RDZ_Po/Sudw3YASwOI/AAAAAAAAAUk/hI7gJT23q6E/Picture%20005.jpg
bottom rows
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_u26Z1RDZ_Po/Sudw3bV7-UI/AAAAAAAAAUg/FauQtJhasI8/Picture%20006.jpg

Any originals in there? Most old used disks tend to have bad labels on them and bad sectors (could have a virus as well).

wolfie
October 27th, 2009, 04:49 PM
i've gone through them all and about 25% of them are original. there is a whole bunch of brand new lable. there are a few that look interesting and i will want to test. looks like who ever owned them before did accounting or worked with money. some of the floppies look real high quality. i think i am going to clean my floppy drives and then start formating floppies. i don't think i will run into any virus's but i'm going to use a crappy computer anyway.

65535
November 6th, 2009, 03:14 PM
I also have a good size collection of floppies. I have brand new boxes of 8 inch ones and 500 new 720k size. I'm making a point to keep as many low density 5.25 that I can find. The older disks are better quality.