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the-topdog
November 20th, 2009, 07:28 AM
I just purchased a Commodore 66MHz i486DX2-S and am amped up about it as it was one of the last PC models that Commodore released.

I want to upgrade it to the max and use it for surfing the web. But I cannot find any information about it...

I need to find out what kind of ram it requires and what the maximum amount of ram it can take. There are four slots.

I also need to know what the maximum size hard drive it can recognize is.

I appreciate nay help that anybody can give me.

carlsson
November 20th, 2009, 09:09 AM
I don't have any information about it, but isn't there a more or less standard 486 motherboard inside? That probably means 72 pin SIMM, but you may want to know what is the slowest RAM it takes, if you need parity, number of chips per module, single or double sided etc. Maybe it can be 30 pin SIMM too. Using the same assumptions, I would check BIOS version and chipset for known HDD limitations. Perhaps a picture of the motherboard or at least write down some of the most relevant markings on chips and board would give you a great head start.

Raven
December 9th, 2009, 06:57 PM
I didn't know Commodore made x86-compatible PCs.. can we get a picture of this beast? :D

carlsson
December 9th, 2009, 10:44 PM
In the mean time, let me point to Bo Zimmerman's online gallery of Commodore items:
http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/index.html

Scroll past the Amigas and you will see a list of PC compatibles. It should be relatively complete, but keep in mind that the companies (yes, plural) who bought the brand name Commodore have kept producing PC clones ever after. It would appear a 486DX/2-66 is a product of German company Escom's line of Commodore PCs, not the original Commodore.

Raven
December 10th, 2009, 04:59 AM
<dream>I would love to mount my modern desktop in a Commodore case.</dream>

I'd have to find a broken one tho, I'd never have the heart to remove a working Commodore from it's case.

Completely Off-Topic:

I realized just today that my Mitsuba-brand 386 (which I thought was a 286 until the other day) is mounted in an IBM-clone case of the PC/AT. It's not identical, but very similar - I had not known this.

carlsson
December 10th, 2009, 06:18 AM
Actually you can buy a brand new case from Commodore Gaming. While it isn't genuine Commodore for obvious reasons, it has the C= symbol embossed in the chassis. Golan Klinger had a bunch of those cases, brand new in box for sale just the other week but I think he got all of them sold.

Of course retrofitting anything into an older case is a bigger challenge as all the ports, expansion slots, mounting screws, power supply fitting and so on tend to be completely different. Often the only things that will fit right away are 3.5" hard drives and 5.25" optical drives. Sometimes not even those have screw holes at the right places.

Raven
December 10th, 2009, 08:34 AM
Oh believe me I know, i just disassembled like 10 computers yesterday trying to mount my microATX in one, ended up with an Inteva case that's actually quite nice. Only two out of that bunch of retro PCs had screwholes that were plausible. Anything early ATX is compatible with microATX, so if they make cases for a pentium pro or higher I'd be set (iirc).

I can't find what you were talking about on commodoregaming.com - could you link me (assuming it's still there)?

carlsson
December 10th, 2009, 10:35 PM
I assume those Commodore Gaming cases are out of production or so; this Golan guy is a private person who had come across a larger number of empty cases.

gklinger
December 18th, 2009, 01:17 PM
Golan Klinger had a bunch of those cases, brand new in box for sale just the other week but I think he got all of them sold.
That's me and as it happens, I have a couple left. Send me a PM if you're interested. Here are some images in case (no pun intended) anyone is curious. Click on the image for full-size.) Make sure you check out the rubber feet on the bottom of case as shown in the last image. :)

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