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glitch
November 3rd, 2010, 05:42 PM
I got a message through eBay today, from a buyer, who was asking why I was selling the same item under two listings with different prices under different names. Apparently another seller decided that, rather than taking pictures of his items, he was going to use my actual-item pictures as "stock" photography. What amuses me most is that the seller's store name suggests that they run a photographic supply! The item I'm selling is new from a factory bulk pack, never used before, but apparently what his listing represents is a used item which may or may not have stickers/labels. I find that slightly dishonest, and annoying that it confused potential buyers.

Chuck(G)
November 3rd, 2010, 05:44 PM
It's been going on a very long time with eBay (at least 8-9 years). Usually it's a scammer who doesn't even own the item in question. You may want to watermark your photos.

carlsson
November 3rd, 2010, 11:09 PM
A couple of years ago I won an auction that was shut down the morning after it had ended, apparently due to the pictures used were stolen from other auctions and websites. Despite that, eventually the goods arrived in perfect condition and including more items than what the description and stolen images had suggested. While it is very bad practise, some people are just plain lazy or their $50 digital camera just broke down. It is a borderline case if I buy your item and one month later try to resell it using your old pictures. Some people dislike that too, as what I bought was your goods, not the right to use your pictures and description.

hargle
November 4th, 2010, 06:31 AM
is this other seller loading the image straight from your own website too? I've always wanted someone to direct link to my pictures like that so I could, err, change their photo to something very inappropriate. :)

commodorejohn
November 4th, 2010, 10:04 AM
Huh, I just had an interesting time on eBay this morning. I've been considering getting a Wii (for Megaman 9 & 10 and the upcoming La-Mulana remake,) but I'd rather not pay $250 if I can avoid it. Looking through the listings, I was shocked to find that there are dozens of "complete our offers and receive a FREE WII!!!" scams listed as auction items! Do they not check for this stuff, or have they completely stopped giving a shit?

lyonadmiral
November 4th, 2010, 11:16 AM
Do they not check for this stuff, or have they completely stopped giving a shit?

I think the latter. I find many people, especially in my part of the country are terribly apathetic.

Unknown_K
November 4th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Ebay is too busy putting out the 51 days to Christmas counter and pretty graphics to worry about scams.

As far as scams go there I have no problems with the first couple people getting scammed in a new way, but years later when it is common knowledge people who fall for that stuff are just STUPID.

wolfie
November 4th, 2010, 12:50 PM
if he is using your picture i would report him. he is attempting to make money using your picture. there is a "report item" link on the listing page.

Neon_WA
November 4th, 2010, 04:44 PM
is this other seller loading the image straight from your own website too? I've always wanted someone to direct link to my pictures like that so I could, err, change their photo to something very inappropriate. :)

quite common when they list CPUs.. i let one collector know about the hot linked listings and he put in a min bid on the items and then changed his website pics to gay porn :eek:

that seller doesn't borrow pictures anymore :wink:

tezza
November 4th, 2010, 06:22 PM
I once found a New Zealand TradeMe (http://www.trademe.co.nz) seller had lifted the first two paragraphs of my description of the Compaq SLT/286 (http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/collection/compaq-stl286.htm) directly from my collections website and was using it to introduce his sale. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery but I was a bit miffed that there wasn't the slightest indication that this text was sourced directly from elsewhere.

I gently pointed out it was a direct cut and paste from my webite in the questions section of the item (which is public). He quickly changed it and apologised. I would have been happy for him to use it actually, if he'd put it in italics and indicated the source.

Tez

carlsson
November 4th, 2010, 11:13 PM
A lot of people steal texts from other sites. Usually you can tell if the first paragraph is very detailed and technical, and then follows a description of what is included in the deal and it barely manages to describe the items in the lot. It is like I would serve a home cooked three dish meal, of which the delicious starter I have bought ready-made in the store and just pretends to have made myself, but the main course is an undercooked hot dog in stale bread.

MYDQUIN
December 29th, 2010, 01:22 PM
I have never really understood this complaint. Who cares if a subsequent seller copies text or photos as long as the original seller is not tangibly harmed? It's not like they are works of art.

Chuck(G)
December 29th, 2010, 01:32 PM
I have never really understood this complaint. Who cares if a subsequent seller copies text or photos as long as the original seller is not tangibly harmed? It's not like they are works of art.

Well, yes in a way they are--they're the original person's property and it's unethical to use another person's work without asking permission.

Aside from that, unless otherwise stated in the posting, the photos represent what you're selling, right down to the serial number and condition. To post an auction using someone else's photos without stating that the photos do not accurately represent what's being sold is fraud.

Shadow Lord
January 5th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Aside from that, unless otherwise stated in the posting, the photos represent what you're selling, right down to the serial number and condition. To post an auction using someone else's photos without stating that the photos do not accurately represent what's being sold is fraud.

This is more my issue as well then the actual copyright thing. If you use pictures from a NIB auction to sell your broken down junk it isn't fair, even if somewhere in tiny print you say something to the effect of "pictures not of item". I personally don't feel safe buying items from someone who didn't bother to take their own pics because they are trying to pull a fast one as far as I am concerned!

glitch
January 5th, 2011, 02:46 PM
This is more my issue as well then the actual copyright thing. If you use pictures from a NIB auction to sell your broken down junk it isn't fair, even if somewhere in tiny print you say something to the effect of "pictures not of item". I personally don't feel safe buying items from someone who didn't bother to take their own pics because they are trying to pull a fast one as far as I am concerned!

Exactly my problem with it. My sales weren't really affected by it (to my knowledge -- I ordered another 25-pack of Small FRBs for these orders this week), but letting it continue would be misleading buyers, especially since his auction mentioned in the fine print that his items were used and containted possible data as well as had labels stuck to them. Fortunately, the guy who was responsible for the auction agreed with me, since apparently his assistant had decided it would be easier to copy someone else's picture than take one as he'd been instructed to do!