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Vlad
February 14th, 2006, 08:08 PM
Just out of curiosity, How many of you have ever used Sun Solaris before?

If you did, what version and GUI did you use?

(GUI as in CDE, Sun Java Desktop System, KDE, ect...)

Terry Yager
February 14th, 2006, 08:20 PM
Just out of curiosity, How many of you have ever used Sun Solaris before?

If you did, what version and GUI did you use?

(GUI as in CDE, Sun Java Desktop System, KDE, ect...)

Only version I ever tried was mounted on my Sun 3/360 (i286-powered). It was strictly CLI, no GUI at all.

--T

NathanAllan
February 14th, 2006, 09:00 PM
I use Solaris either 8 or 9, prob'ly 8 at school. It's my unix class so we don't use any kidn of gui, we're strictly at the bash prompt. I love it. It seems to make more sense than dos ever did (to me). It's funny, the teacher sometimes forgets and tries to use dos commands, and I can hear the computer heckling him in my head. I don't know the specs of the machine, but I dont think they're in the ghz range. Probably 800-900 mhz.

Have you tried ebay for your sun? I see a few from time to time.

Vlad
February 14th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Have you tried ebay for your sun? I see a few from time to time.

Ugh, don't even get me started........

-V

sbrown
February 14th, 2006, 11:00 PM
I've got 2.6 for x86 in the closet, 9 for sparc, and 7 & 8 somewhere in these piles...haven't checked 10 out yet.

CDE isn't cute and fuzzy, but it isn't meant to be and doesn't look like it's changed much since 2.6. It was still somewhat responsive even with bit of a load on a Sparcstation5/170 with maxed out memory & Solaris9. Gnome2 was dog slow but would probably be quite usable (as far as Gnome2 goes...I despise Nautilus and Metacity) on a more recent machine like a Sun Blade or a Ultra80. Never tried KDE on Solaris, was it in there pre-10? Never used JDS.

Vlad
February 15th, 2006, 06:10 AM
People CLAIM they put KDE on Solaris, but I never saw any screen shots. So they probably were talking big. I never had anything aginst the CDE. That was the only option for a while. The JDS doesin't look anything like gnome. Sun modified it heavily. It still says Gnome in a few places, but acts nothing like it. I used to use gnome and hated it. The JDS it pretty nice. I'm running it with Solaris 10 on a 400 MHz P II, it lags a little under heavy load, but otherwise it runs just fine. I only installed it last night so I havent gone into the CDE yet. It's probably the same as I left it In Solaris 9. I love Solaris, I would never go back ti Windows ever. It's either Linux or Solaris for me.....

Solaris 10 is worth the look/upgrade. It adds some nice features.

-V

carlsson
February 16th, 2006, 11:02 AM
I've used a tiny bit of SunOS 4, have seen CD:s with Solaris 2.1-2.4 and for five years daily used Solaris 2.5 and upwards. I haven't used anything newer than Solaris 8, I believe.

I never liked CDE - I preferred other window managers in classic X11, mainly ctwm actually. At first we thought CDE was something Sun specific, but after booting AIX 4.2 on a RS/6000 desktop, we found that the exact same graphical interface was presented, and a 66 MHz PPC601 outperformed a 40 MHz SuperSPARC (as in SS-10).

Vlad
February 16th, 2006, 11:07 AM
a 66 MHz PPC601 outperformed a 40 MHz SuperSPARC (as in SS-10).

Duh, one's 66Mhz and the other is 40Mhz. Of course it out performed the slower one.....

-V

carlsson
February 16th, 2006, 11:28 AM
Duh, but they're two different architectures. Depending on how well adapted the software is to the CPU, a more powerful CPU at a lower clock frequency could outperform another one. An example:

SPARCstation 2: 40 MHz RT601. SPECint92=22, SPECfp92=23
SPARCstation LX: 50 MHz MicroSPARC. SPECint92=26, SPECfp92=21
SPARCstation 10: 40 MHz SuperSPARC. SPECint92=50, SPECfp92=60
IBM RS/6000 m250: 66 MHz PPC601. SPECint92=63, SPECfp92=72
Compaq Deskpro: 66 MHz i486DX/2. SPECint92=32, SPECfp92=16
Micronics M4P: 100 MHz i486DX/4. SPECint92=51, SPECfp92=27

The SPEC-marks for 486 PCs may differ depending on the general configuration.

Vlad
February 16th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Oh, I was thinking of something else.....

I get it now....

-V