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Erik
March 9th, 2006, 03:05 PM
I just got the following in my mailbox:


I am with a documentary television company that is looking for amateurs who are able to distinguish junk from treasure, and that includes architectural and computer salvaging, dumpster divers, etc. for a pilot series for the History Channel. The show is sort of Antique Roadshow with a little bit more testosterone SO ONLY MALES 18-45.

We are definitely looking for people who can share their know-how in locating discarded items "that have lost their shine and sparkle, but not their value – or their history."
In particular, we are looking for people who do this as a hobby and have a great passion for it.

Our show is about the search for such items, the history of the item and the appraisal of the item's value.
We would be doing an hour-long show featuring three collectors and would follow each collector on their journey for their hidden “treasure."

If you would be interested in speaking with me regarding this show, could you please contact me at the number or e-mail listed below.
Thank you!

--
Best Regards,

Barbara Hughes
Film Garden Entertainment, Inc.
Phone 818-301-4551

Fax 818-301-4684
Email: bhughesNOSPAM .at. NOSPAMfilmgarden.net (bhughes@filmgarden.net)

I've previously chatted with Barbara's boss about the show and it sounds like they are getting closer to production.

If you can help, please get in touch with these folks ASAP!

Thanks and best of luck!

billdeg
March 9th, 2006, 04:08 PM
I would love too, but I assume that you need someone on the west coast? I am on the East coast. Let us know when the show airs.

Erik
March 9th, 2006, 04:49 PM
Give 'em a call and find out. They may be willing to send a crew anywhere. I haven't asked. . . :)

Terry Yager
March 9th, 2006, 06:42 PM
Damn! Too old...

--T

Vlad
March 9th, 2006, 07:40 PM
I'm between 18 and 45. Somewhere. But for me, being on TV once already was one time to many.....
Besides I don't think a System Administrator with former Research and Development work counts as Amateur......

-V

NathanAllan
March 9th, 2006, 08:57 PM
I'm within the age range and am barely going to school (comparatively speaking), so I think I qualify as an amateur... should I wear the helmet to the set? :)

I sent my email. I mean, why not?

That brings to mind when a friend's mother thought she saw me getting killed in a hurricane near Florida on the news. Freaky. Must have been a doppleganger.

Nathan

carlsson
March 10th, 2006, 06:39 AM
The part with only guys, 18-45 sounds like they're trying to picture a stereotype rather than making a serious program, but if you've been in touch with the boss, maybe they really mean something. Maybe vintage computing etc isn't interesting enough to make a TV show without the "laugh at the nerds" factor?

Erik
March 10th, 2006, 07:11 AM
Maybe vintage computing etc isn't interesting enough to make a TV show without the "laugh at the nerds" factor?

It didn't sound like they were trying to poke fun at or parody anyone. They just have a target demographic and they are trying to stay within that.

I'm not going to pass any sort of judgement until I see the pilot.

If I were more of an "active" collector (i.e. out on the streets looking) I'd have gone forward with this myself.

mryon
March 10th, 2006, 07:29 AM
That would be cool if I were still pulling in strays off the street, garage sales, boot sales, university property auctions...etc.

carlsson makes a good point though, I'd be sort of afraid that I'd be in some sort of Trekkies type thing. True enough Erik, I shouldn't judge it until I see it.

carlsson
March 10th, 2006, 08:42 AM
Besides, in Antique Roadshow, I believe there are experts - professionals - who travel around and value people's stuff, not amateurs. To me it sounds more like a gameshow with a bit of Scrapheap flavor.

(If the demographic are men 18-45 years old, aren't they just as likely to watch the show if a few of the featured collectors/bargain hunters were hot women who also know what they're looking for? I think that is many nerds' ulterior dream; to see or even find a babe that at the same time is a hard-core geek)

Vlad
March 10th, 2006, 09:07 AM
This is exactly why I am avoiding this tread, but now I feel compelled to say something. Erik, you say their not out to make fun of anyone, yet in the e-mail they mention Dumpster Diving, no good can come from that. (When your on TV that is.) If they mention that, then it doesint sound like their going for informational. Another thing, last I checked Discrimination is illegal in the United States.

Legodude522
March 18th, 2006, 09:52 PM
I would love to be on! Though I'm on the east coast. I'm a vintage PC junky.

Jeff, age 16.

USSEnterprise
March 18th, 2006, 10:11 PM
I'd do it if I were 18 or older. Magic of all kinds can be found in a pile of trash

Legodude522
March 18th, 2006, 10:39 PM
The correct term is "pillaging."

Terry Yager
March 19th, 2006, 12:26 AM
Pillage???

Sack the monastary...plunder it's dumpsters of thier electronic wealth...rape the defenseless computers, strip them of all dignity, then burn thier lifeless carcasses in the village square...

--T

USSEnterprise
March 19th, 2006, 12:44 AM
Pillage???

Sack the monastary...plunder it's dumpsters of thier electronic wealth...rape the defenseless computers, strip them of all dignity, then burn thier lifeless carcasses in the village square...

--T
Burn? What a waste! Sledgehammer!

RobertB
March 21st, 2006, 07:15 PM
I've previously chatted with Barbara's boss about the show and it sounds like they are getting closer to production.

If you can help, please get in touch with these folks ASAP!


After I inquired about the show, Barbara wrote back saying
that what they are developing is a "pilot" show, i.e., the
show has not been sold yet to the network. If the pilot
show interests the network, the network will then authorize
production to make it into a continuing series.

As I've always heard, networks are deluged with many pilot
shows, and the chances that Barbara's show will be picked up
is small.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug

Erik
March 21st, 2006, 07:29 PM
As I've always heard, networks are deluged with many pilot shows, and the chances that Barbara's show will be picked up is small.

True. This isn't a sure thing.

Then again, if the show is good the Discovery Channel (or one of the similar networks) should be interested.

I'll keep my fingers crossed! :D

Micom 2000
March 21st, 2006, 09:35 PM
It's fitting that our resident Commodore guru Robert B should put his reservations on this question. And from California , the home of stardoms shortfalls as well. Maybe is a standard answer in Hollywood.

Vlad > Erik, you say their not out to make fun of anyone, yet in the e-mail they mention Dumpster Diving, no good can come from that. (When your on TV that is.) <

On the contrary, dumpster diving is a established as a source of computer finds. To many other poor or homeless people it is also a source of income and yes even food. I'll identify with them much quicker than the the collector who simply opens his check-book and pays outrageous prices on an item that can impress his/her friends.
Considering the "reality" shows and an "idiot" factor, dumpster diving is pretty low on the humiliation scale.

Vlad >If they mention that, then it doesint sound like their going for informational. Another thing, last I checked Discrimination is illegal in the United States.<

I wasn't sure I read that line correctly from an otherwise seemingly intelligent person. As a foreigner who happens to live in the shadow of the US behemoth and shares in common many unholy values, it seems evident that discrimination is part and parcel of US society from it's formation till the present. A new candidate has even been added to it's niggers, kikes, chinks, injuns, DPs , dagoes, greasers, mexes since 9/11.
Ragheads,musselmen, eh-rabs.

Poverty, physical or mental infirminty don't even make a glitch on the scale.
One can only consider him/her-self blessed if in his/her collecting enthusiasm, we are confused as being of the children of the gods.

Lawrence

carlsson
March 22nd, 2006, 02:06 AM
I wonder how politically correct those TV networks are, if a show without sex discrimination would be easier to sell to them?

Vlad
March 22nd, 2006, 05:40 AM
A Corporate Shill friend of mine always said, "As long as we get all of our money, we don't care what you do."

Terry Yager
March 22nd, 2006, 08:35 AM
I wonder how politically correct those TV networks are, if a show without sex discrimination would be easier to sell to them?

It's not the sexism, it's the age-ism that bugs me. Apparently, the show's producers aren't really in touch with thier subject matter, because almost all of the most active collectors that I know are in the middle-and-up age group, although most of us have given up on dumpster-diving as it is too painful to be climbing in and out with arthritis, etc.

--T

Micom 2000
March 22nd, 2006, 09:28 PM
Well as a registered old fart I must say that should I find a promising dumpster, I would climb in and search for treasures, arthritis or not. The joy of finding something cool far outweighs the pain of getting there. I remember a thread on classiccmp which dwelt on the bacterial danger of this practice by some of the more wimpy of the nerds on the list.

Lawrence

carlsson
March 23rd, 2006, 03:33 AM
Heh. From what I originally understood, this proposed show will contain some kind of evaluation event. Will they take the contestants around to flea markets, second hand stores, dumpsters, look for advertisments etc and the key is to give a fair evaluation of vintage computers? Will every contestant get a sum of money - say $500 - and has one week to spend it on vintage computing, which then is evalutated by someone else or sold off eBay; the one who makes the best profit wins?

I understand if the producers don't want to explain everything in public, in case of competitors, but the Antique Roadshow in combination with dumpster diving sounds like two very different concepts. Add the age and sex discrimination to ensure you get the typical 35 year old male nerd.

Of course there are a lot of reality shows with limitations who can enter, but they explicitely say that only testosterone overloaded hunks and blondes with surgically enhanced breasts can participate because that is what their viewers and advertisers are paying to see. As I doubt there are many companies today advertising products directly to the vintage computing community, it leaves the audience is supposed to consist of 35 year old male nerds. As I wrote before, most of those would like to see 30 year old babes dumpster diving, so it contradicts the theorem. :-)

Terry Yager
March 23rd, 2006, 10:27 AM
Well as a registered old fart I must say that should I find a promising dumpster, I would climb in and search for treasures, arthritis or not. The joy of finding something cool far outweighs the pain of getting there. I remember a thread on classiccmp which dwelt on the bacterial danger of this practice by some of the more wimpy of the nerds on the list.

Lawrence

Keyword, 'promising'... If I found a promising dumpster, I'm sure I'd investigate it further. I just don't actively go dumpster diving on a daily basis anymore.

--T

CP/M User
March 23rd, 2006, 12:49 PM
carlsson wrote:

> Of course there are a lot of reality shows with
> limitations who can enter, but they explicitely say
> that only testosterone overloaded hunks and blondes
> with surgically enhanced breasts can participate
> because that is what their viewers and advertisers
> are paying to see. As I doubt there are many
> companies today advertising products directly to the
> vintage computing community, it leaves the audience
> is supposed to consist of 35 year old male nerds. As
> I wrote before, most of those would like to see 30
> year old babes dumpster diving, so it contradicts the
> theorem. :-)

Of course they would put limitations onto these shows. It's
the same story here I think, though I'm unsure if surgically
enhanced whatevers means anything - unless of course we're
talking about who's available. I've been saying this for years
that reality programs stink big time & I think we're slowly
moving away from it - unfortunately there's still some there -
I've got my fingers crossed though & 'am hoping the TV polls
are correct & that many of the top rating shows aren't reality
(unfortunately there aren't many on at the moment).

What beats me is if it's non-reality show at prime time hour &
it don't rate in 2 weeks - they'll take it off, simple as
that. If it's reality - they just leave it on regardless of it
rating or not. Simply because it's cheap viewing or something
I don't know - but I simply don't support that trash. It also
amazes me how some parents let their children watch these
shows - what kind of damage will they have on the childrens
mind for later in life?

The good news with Telly here (in Australia), is Digital has
been postponed for another couple of years (til 2010).
Originally 2008 was mean't to be the date which saw the end of
the original Analogue signal (going since 1956), however some
people reckon this will carry on until 2012! At the moment I
recently found out that 15% (of our state I think perhaps -
better if Country) only have Digital Telly recievers. Many
people simply don't care about updating. If something works
for them, then why not use it. Personally, I haven't updated
due to the trash they put on telly - so why pay just to
recieve the garbadge they put on telly? Also there's just too
many options & do you think some smuck at a retail store is
going to know what's a suitable set-top-box for your telly?

CP/M User.

carlsson
March 24th, 2006, 02:48 AM
Sweden is in the middle of converting from analog to digital. They do it region by region, and here we will switch over on April 3rd. However, I have cable so we're not affected.

I think so called reality shows will integrate as one type of entertainment. There will both be more subtle ones and more vulgar ones, and maybe mix soaps with reality in such way that part of it is played against a script but in certain situations people will have to improvise and handle the situation without the script. As computer graphics improve, we can look forward to reality shows in a CG environment too, maybe a virtual Survivor with humans versus the computer.. sounds like a computer game transferred to prime time television.

In many of the reality shows over here - not only those who take part on a beach or swimming pool - it is almost common practise for the girls (ages 18-35) to either have done a breast augmentation or state they will do it for the money if they win the show. It is a bit tragic, but eventually if almost everyone can afford to get their dream breasts, it will diminish from being something attractive. Noone will care or even find the ones who resist more likeable.

CP/M User
March 24th, 2006, 12:29 PM
carlsson wrote:

> Sweden is in the middle of converting from analog to
> digital. They do it region by region, and here we
> will switch over on April 3rd. However, I have cable
> so we're not affected.

Well that's much different from here. I guess you're not sure
if you need to pay when you switch over?

From what I've seen of Digital so far, it's simply not worth
paying $100-$1000 (depending on what kinda box you need) just
to be with the times. Here they offer Standard Definition -
which is the cheaper - but guarantees you get the rubbish for
some time to come. High Definition - you need a special telly
(or something to get) & the set-top boxes are more expensive.
What beats me is does is box work on an ordinary telly (nobody
seems to know - cause out of all the recommendations I hear
about these things - nobody actually seize). The truth of the
matter is I've heard people going out - buying one of these
boxes & getting it home - only to find out it's not compatable
with their telly! So is it really worth it. The other biggest
piece of rubbish I heard was more Digital (Plasma, LCD,
whatever sets) - most of them while they cost the earth (LCDs
pretty cheap - with the smaller stuff), you still need some
box to pick up the stations. The only TV I heard about which
has a built-in tuner (for Digital) are these LG Tellys (which
cost heaps anyway!).

For me, I'm happy to stick it out with the DVDs - they seem to
be comming down in price for both Movies & TV shows - which
offer plenty of hours of commercial free viewing (plus you can
just about get whatever classic shows are on offer). The only
real thing I'll miss is the Cricket, I'll have to get used to
listening to it on the radio.

> In many of the reality shows over here - not only
> those who take part on a beach or swimming pool - it
> is almost common practise for the girls (ages 18-35)
> to either have done a breast augmentation or state
> they will do it for the money if they win the show.
> It is a bit tragic, but eventually if almost everyone
> can afford to get their dream breasts, it will
> diminish from being something attractive. Noone will
> care or even find the ones who resist more likeable.

Generally I think that's a turn off. It's simply unnatural &
is a perfectionists quest to be perfect. As the old saying
goes "Nobody's Perfect" - I think that no matter how hard
someone tries to be perfect - they'll never have a perfect
mentality as long as their actions require surgery.

CP/M User.

carlsson
March 24th, 2006, 01:27 PM
You can get five free channels - four are Swedish public service and one is commercial with special license. As an owner of a TV set, everyone (are supposed to) pay a yearly license which covers the public service. You can get a digital TV box for around 500 SEK, free from subscription. If you want to subscribe, you can get the actual box for 1 SEK and monthly pay somewhere from 150 SEK and upwards depending on how many channels you want.

The biggest scam about digital TV is that every device needs its own box, or you need to buy a very expensive box that can handle more than one device at the same time. You switch channels on the digital box, not the TV. I'm not quite sure why it is done in this fashion, other than the manufacturers get to sell more hardware. In my world, a digital receiver should act like a miniature cable box, converting the digital channels you have rights to see into analog signals on a private cable net. Then you could connect all your TVs, VCRs and whatever to that box. Maybe they're scared that neighbours and apartment buildings would only get one box and then several families could share the same subscription? My brother has experimented with getting a couple of digital receivers, and set them up to output a RF signal from one channel each, to build a private cable net, but he has problems to find receivers that output a good RF signal.

In the summer cottage, my parents will install a digital receiver. We already have rather poor reception out there, and when they switch to digital, I've heard that either you get a crisp picture or nothing, there is no blurry, noisy inbetween. We'll see if the antenna w/ amplifier will do the task.


I think that no matter how hard someone tries to be perfect - they'll never have a perfect mentality as long as their actions require surgery.

Heh. Well said.

Terry Yager
March 25th, 2006, 02:25 AM
Watch it Prionkore, even thinly-disguised spam is frowned upon in these forums.

--T