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BuggZ
December 17th, 2011, 09:01 AM
Check out this listing (not mine).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WORKING-APPLE-MACINTOSH-SE-COMPUTER-PRINTER-/270875626618?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f11720c7a

Quote from the listing "Buy it now before it becomes really expensive!"

I think it's already a little too late for that.

NeXT
December 17th, 2011, 09:42 AM
Looks like an SE alright.

....exactly like the twenty others I worked on last weekend.

BGoins12
December 17th, 2011, 09:59 AM
Look at the seller's other auctions. Everything is grossly overpriced.

AppleIIfan
December 17th, 2011, 10:25 AM
For that price Ill sell ya 400 of the darn things :P

NeXT
December 17th, 2011, 10:35 AM
*Attempts to contact the seller*


Unfortunately, this seller is not able to respond to your question.
Wow, this sack has a lot more $%*@ than usual in it.

AppleIIfan
December 17th, 2011, 10:42 AM
wonder if someone should throw a bid on it just to get his panties in a bunch lol

BGoins12
December 17th, 2011, 10:53 AM
I messaged him with a list of all the auctions that are thousands cheaper than his.

TanruNomad
December 17th, 2011, 11:16 AM
I messaged him and asked if it comes with the Apple...

VintageComputerman
December 17th, 2011, 11:38 AM
Looks like he shows an apple with just about every item, lol. I see a lot of .99 cent winners, lol. All that work for under a buck!

DOS lives on!!
December 17th, 2011, 12:24 PM
It says,

In fifty years, this will be worth $50k.
With how he priced that, he'll beat 50K in fifty days!

What's the printer that comes with SE? Apple Scribe Printer?

33black
December 17th, 2011, 01:27 PM
This is so annoying. Everyone just looks to see what other people are pricing their machines at, even though they never selll, and then price them the same. The people on craigslist look at eBay to see what people price theirs at, and do the same thing.

It sucks being an Apple fan, and general computer geek who wants to mess around with machines, and can't afford anything because everyone is living in a separate reality.

People who try to take advantage of the gullibility of others and the whole "Steve Jobs passed away" thing, suck.

BGoins12
December 17th, 2011, 01:32 PM
Don't get me started on craigslist..... people on there think that a 1.0GHz G4 iBook is worth $250-275. :stern: Recently there was a 1.67GHz PowerBook for $550 that "needed work, but a steal!"

tezza
December 17th, 2011, 02:19 PM
... everyone is living in a separate reality.

This has a certainly irony as Steve Job's employees during the original Mac era spoke of Steve Jobs living in a sparate reality where both the laws of physics and the truth of balance sheets didn't apply.

Tez

33black
December 17th, 2011, 06:26 PM
i suppose you are right about that one.

Druid6900
December 17th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Just think, if Jobs hadn't have died, that thing would be priced at 30 to 40 bucks, which is about what it's worth. Dead or alive, you just can't get away from Apple mercenary (perhaps that's the word they are looking for when they say "visionary") pricing.

Compgeke
December 18th, 2011, 12:04 AM
I do have to say...something is only worth what someone will pay. I would pay probably $20 for one of these...but then again, they probably don't realize that not many people have 5 grand to just go spend, especially since that is 2.5 times what my mom makes in a month...

33black
December 18th, 2011, 11:56 AM
But 9999/10000 times, those things are just going to sit there for months, and they keep relisting them.

A guy has been relisting an IBM XT with the monitor, keyboard, and the original boxes of software/books that came with it...it's in good condition, but he wanted $500 for like 2 months, then $450, now it's at $350. It's been relisted for like 4 or 5 months now.

I told him I'd give him $60 and come get it immediately. Seems like a really fair offer to me. I'm just going to get it running and probably play some old text games on it. haha...maybe try and do some assembly programming? I've never learned how.

Trixter
December 18th, 2011, 01:15 PM
A guy has been relisting an IBM XT with the monitor, keyboard, and the original boxes of software/books that came with it...it's in good condition, but he wanted $500 for like 2 months, then $450, now it's at $350. It's been relisted for like 4 or 5 months now.

I told him I'd give him $60 and come get it immediately. Seems like a really fair offer to me. I'm just going to get it running and probably play some old text games on it. haha...maybe try and do some assembly programming? I've never learned how.

His price is too high, but your price is too low -- the original boxes, and software/manuals, certainly bring the price of a complete system to around $120-$150 and then it goes upward after that based on condition and internal config (640K, stock parts, everything working, etc.).

If all you want is a "beater" to play old games on and learn assembler, there are cheaper systems to be had (like 8088 Taiwanese clones, or any one of several Tandy 1000 machines). Here's a few I found doing a quick search (it's slim pickings around xmas time, maybe search again in a few months):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandy-1000-EX-/130618393177?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e69768259#ht_500wt_1413

(http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandy-1000-EX-/130618393177?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e69768259#ht_500wt_1413)http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandy-1000ex-vintage-computer-25-1050-/320815230163?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4ab213ecd3#ht_768wt_1396

(http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandy-1000ex-vintage-computer-25-1050-/320815230163?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4ab213ecd3#ht_768wt_1396)http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-PS-2-56-SLC-386-Desktop-Computer-/150721154808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2317ae4ef8#ht_500wt_1413

33black
December 18th, 2011, 01:42 PM
It doesn't have the original boxes for the computer itself, just some of the manuals that came in like, cardboard box-like holders.

$60 I think is fair. It's technology that's 30 years old. I don't want a beater, I don't want a clone, I had that same one when i was 14 that I got for free from the school when they cleaned their stuff out. I got rid of it...probably shouldn't have, but at that time I was more interested in the new stuff.

:)

Ole Juul
December 18th, 2011, 02:22 PM
It doesn't have the original boxes for the computer itself, just some of the manuals that came in like, cardboard box-like holders.

$60 I think is fair. It's technology that's 30 years old. I don't want a beater, I don't want a clone, I had that same one when i was 14 that I got for free from the school when they cleaned their stuff out. . . .

I too don't like to pay much for old computers, but some are desirable by many people. They're not going to get any cheaper.


Wikipedia: The IBM model 5150 Personal Computer has become a collectable among vintage computer collectors, due to the system being the first true “PC” as we know them today.

People give old computers away all the time (I just got a free 5155) but these old machines are getting hard to come by in that way and the "givaways" are mostly newer. Times change.

I wouldn't pay it myself, but on the open market I'd say $200-300 for a PC that's clean with manuals. I paid $40 last year for a rusty one that didn't boot and no manuals or second drive and felt I got an OK deal because it was from a store. A friend with no interest in computers would probably give it away, but I didn't have one of those and at this point in time I doubt one will show up. I'm more likely to get a new Windows7 machine for free because they're more common and not worth as much. Anyway, the market for the original PC is hot right now and you get what you pay for.

BTW: You say it's technology that's 30 years old. Well, you do know that the older it gets the more desirable, and hence expensive it gets. Right?

ebaybrad1
December 19th, 2011, 09:10 AM
ill take this one for .02 cents instead....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Macintosh-Apple-Mac-SE-Computer-System-/150722375451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2317c0ef1b

Compgeke
December 19th, 2011, 09:33 AM
That one even has a Radius processor upgrade card, or it at least has the software for it.

Ole Juul
December 19th, 2011, 02:15 PM
ill take this one for .02 cents instead....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Macintosh-Apple-Mac-SE-Computer-System-/150722375451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2317c0ef1b
Did I miss something? The OP is looking for a 5160. I know, I'd talked about 5150's earlier, but they're both pretty hot in the market right now.

Compgeke
December 19th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Where did anyone mention a 5160?

Ole Juul
December 19th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Where did anyone mention a 5160?


33black:. . . A guy has been relisting an IBM XT with the monitor, keyboard, and the original boxes of software/books that came with it...it's in good condition, but he wanted $500 for like 2 months, then $450, now it's at $350. It's been relisted for like 4 or 5 months now.

I told him I'd give him $60 and come get it immediately. Seems like a really fair offer to me. I'm just going to get it running and probably play some old text games on it. haha...maybe try and do some assembly programming? I've never learned how.

And a couple of posts later.

33black: . . . I don't want a beater, I don't want a clone, I had that same one when i was 14 that I got for free from the school when they cleaned their stuff out.

And so on, until I thought he was the OP. Sorry, I didn't check that the names were different and the "real" OP was actually looking at something else and had not come back in.

BuggZ
December 23rd, 2011, 11:05 AM
I just tossed this one out originally because it seems the idea that all Apple computers are now worth stupid money because Steve Jobs passed away. Maybe we should all start stocking up on boxed copies of Windows because in the ebay world, when Bill Gates eventually dies, copies of Windows will be worth their weight in gold.

Ole Juul
December 23rd, 2011, 12:06 PM
I just tossed this one out originally because it seems the idea that all Apple computers are now worth stupid money because Steve Jobs passed away. Maybe we should all start stocking up on boxed copies of Windows because in the ebay world, when Bill Gates eventually dies, copies of Windows will be worth their weight in gold.

Maybe even more so the MS DOS v1 and v1.1 disks with DONKEY.BAS on them. (That's the game that BG wrote.)

33black
December 25th, 2011, 07:36 AM
i get the price increase in age for historical/museum purposes, however, i know most of the people on this board, like me, just like to tinker and geek out over stuff we had (or didnt have) when we were young.

the technology itself being 30 years old has no practical applications in 2011, which makes it useless to 99.9999% of the population. its just the stupid ebay people overinflating prices and people who are not tinkerers and nerds buying things because they want to resell because steve jobs died or whatever the case may be. its all just misinformation, like most of the internet is.

we'd all be better off if ebay and facebook never existed.

Compgeke
December 25th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Maybe not ebay, I get a lot of newer computer parts off there for dirt cheap, for example my 3G CDMA card I got for $6.50 there, free shipping, or I could've saved my money and got one from sprint for close to $80. However, it's the stupid people there that the world can do without, as for facebook, I think the world would be a whole lot better if it never had came along.

DOS lives on!!
December 25th, 2011, 02:26 PM
I think the world would be a whole lot better if it never had came along.
Texting should also be included. Face to face interactions have decreased, people type only with their two thumbs, and sooner enough, LOL is going to be added to the dictionary.

angel_grig
December 25th, 2011, 09:04 PM
we'd all be better off if ebay and facebook never existed.

I agree with you about facebook but not about ebay.The reason is that for all of us outside of US ebay is-sometimes-the only place we can find the vintage stuff we are looking for.For example I got my coco3 with Fd 501 drive from ebay that is impossible to find in Greece.And in the 2 greek vintage computer forums you can find only a few vintage items that are so overpriced that is a lot cheaper to get them from abroad than from the local seller!Of course there are the VCF and the amibay market places but sometimes ebay is the only way.:(

Ole Juul
December 26th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Look at the seller's other auctions. Everything is grossly overpriced.

So in this case the seller is just loonie, but I was just checking on an item that I had in mind which was not an auction but a buy-it-now item at (iirc) $49 - which was normal and in line with the wider world as well as all the other stuff the seller has which is properly priced. Now at the end of the listing period, this one item only jumps to $999. WTF, how can that be explained? Did they forget the period?

EverythingIBM
December 26th, 2011, 09:26 PM
Texting should also be included. Face to face interactions have decreased, people type only with their two thumbs, and sooner enough, LOL is going to be added to the dictionary.

I hate typing on rubber-dome keyboards, let alone typing with thumbs on a touchscreen or microscopic keyboard. I don't own a cellphone and can't use one, but my friends let me try them out now and then.

It doesn't even come close to my buckling spring keyboards.

applefreak
December 27th, 2011, 05:58 AM
The reason is that for all of us outside of US ebay is-sometimes-the only place we can find the vintage stuff we are looking for.
I agree

Fair price : if i own one, what price should i want tho have for it, if selling?

The risk of ebay...paying in advance

i paid the seller always correct, immediately after receiving the bill
but.......
- it happens i received not a thing, and emails or messages weren't answered at all, the seller has my money and i have nothing
- i received the items, broken, i always demand to ship the items with care, sufficient protected (and paid extra for it), but some of my last items arrived with no protection at all, the ebay claims... a joke
- some of the sellers doesn't know the by paypal international offered options ( a.o. confirmed address)

Chromedome45
January 6th, 2012, 03:35 PM
Well seems like a lot of sellers recently have this "Steve Jobs" thing going on where they can add an addional amount of money to the item just because Steve's name is engraved in the inside of the Macintosh. So what! Adds no value at all. Just my 2 cents worth.

Chuck(G)
January 6th, 2012, 03:54 PM
So in this case the seller is just loonie, but I was just checking on an item that I had in mind which was not an auction but a buy-it-now item at (iirc) $49 - which was normal and in line with the wider world as well as all the other stuff the seller has which is properly priced. Now at the end of the listing period, this one item only jumps to $999. WTF, how can that be explained? Did they forget the period?

Well, if there are no bids, the seller is free to terminate his auction and re-list it however it goes.

If there are bids, the process is a bit more complicated and eBay frowns on the practice. Of course, the seller can claim the item was stolen, or he broke it, or his dog ate it, then relist it later.

OTOH, I've run into sellers that have been wonderful.

platatomi
January 6th, 2012, 03:58 PM
He is DREAMING if he thinks he will get that much

jrehmer
January 10th, 2012, 03:14 PM
In fifty years, this will be worth $50k.

Visionaries only need apply.

LOL Only a visionary would think that!

Se87
February 24th, 2012, 02:37 PM
This guy is hilarious. I like now that Steve has died everyone bumps up their machine(s) costs buy $200. Some moron on eBay was also listing a Lisa 2 not working, no manuals for 10k. If it was a Lisa 1 I could see but a Lisa 2?? I'd give the guy 300 for it.