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Jaynesh
April 12th, 2006, 10:17 AM
I have this computer in my cupboard.

Could it be worth anything?

Old is gold :p

Terry Yager
April 12th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Model? Condition?? Pix???

--T

CP/M User
April 12th, 2006, 01:49 PM
Jaynesh wrote:

> I have this computer in my cupboard.

> Could it be worth anything?

> Old is gold :p

Why are you thinking of selling it?

I'd hate to say it, but I don't think so - cause I'm unaware
of any Amstrad PC based group which would put value onto this
machine.

Like Terry I'm unsure which model your referning to. I know
Amstrad did an interesting little 8088 based PC which looked
like an Amiga & according to the review I saw of it - the
reviewer thought that's who it was aimed for. It came with GEM
Gui system & DOS of course - video was CGA I think.

The machine I'm thinking of (in particular) might be better
keeping, cause I see it as a kind of PCJnr, in that it could
probably have the potential of having it's own specific line
of programs - cause the machine I'm thinking of certainally
wasn't the sort you'd add much hardware to it.

But then the same could be said about any Amstrad PC based
computer! Personally, I've always wondered if Amstrad put some
kind of Firmware in their PC line of machines (like they did
for the CPCs).

CP/M User.

Terry Yager
April 12th, 2006, 02:25 PM
This is the Amstrad '640' that I thought of:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8792347906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

--T

CP/M User
April 12th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Hmmm... Yeah, I can't seem to find the Amstrad computer I'm
thinking of. It's in one of my books though, I'll see if I can
find it. It's different from the PPC640, but released around
the same time. Maybe the one I'm thinking of is rare. If I
find the article - I'll take a photo of it & post it here.

CP/M User.

Terry Yager
April 12th, 2006, 02:52 PM
Yeah, I know which one ya mean. It's an integrated keyboard/system unit with a (5.25"?) floppy built into the right side, and there's a little 'trapdoor' at the rear, which opens to reveal the too-short expansion slot(s) (I don't remember if it has one or two).

--T

Micom 2000
April 12th, 2006, 05:09 PM
It's more likely not one of the PPC Amstrads. I have an Amstrad PC640 HD20 which was a regular DOS machine with a couple of differences. Like the IBM PS/1 2011 and 2021 it's power supply was in the monitor. It also had sockets for 4 AAA batteries external on the top. Unfortunately it also had a non-standard 6-pin KB (which I am looking for) and mouse. I have never been to boot it up because of that. The monitor is labelled PC-CD in front.
It's possible it does have a green Gem GUI like the Atari ST, based on my research.

Lawrence

Terry Yager
April 12th, 2006, 05:55 PM
My quick search didn't yield a picture, but this site proved to be quite informative:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cliff.lawson/index.htm

--T

CP/M User
April 12th, 2006, 07:47 PM
This is the machine I was thinking about.
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8373/amstradpc206kt.jpg

Yes, it's the Amstrad PC20! ;-)

This has:


8086, 10Mhz CPU
512k RAM
Single 720k, 3.5" floppy drive

I/O
===
Parallel Port
Serial Port
Monitor Port
TV Port
External Floppy port
Joystick Port
Mouse Port

102 keys keyboard

Display
=====
CGA 3 modes
40x25 or 80x25 in 16 colours
320x200 in four colours
640x200 in two colours
Colour Monitor additional $300

Expansion port
2 x PC compatable slots

OS:
MS-DOS 3.3, GEM


The keyboard (which inhouses the actual computer) was $899 reviewed in this particularly magazine late 1988 (I can best guess). It was described as a machine to compete with the Amigas at the time, unfortunately it probably didn't do too well with the CGA - which is somewhat significant since video cards on IBMs transformed into EGA a couple of years back (in that period) - just a bit before VGA was it or was VGA around in 1988?

Anyway certainally an unusual machine, which you could plug into the telly & away you go - I think that the Amigas & Atari STs at the time would have limited it's success - but like the PC Jnr, it could probably do some neat stuff - if the manufacturers gave it a few tricks.

CP/M User.

P.S. Sorry 'bout the image quality, I took a photo of it out of a magazine. But yeah, having seen all of the thread - this machine doesn't have 640k & I'm unsure it was ever possible to put 640k into it - judging by the tone of the review.

NathanAllan
April 12th, 2006, 08:20 PM
Here's what I found, and it sure looks like a neat machine. Love the case design :)

http://1000bit.net/scheda.asp?id=163

Terry Yager
April 12th, 2006, 08:53 PM
Here's what I found, and it sure looks like a neat machine. Love the case design :)

http://1000bit.net/scheda.asp?id=163

I hate to be the voice of gloom and doom here, but I have to differ with ya on this. They seem like a PITA, too much proprietary hardware for my taste. And the picture posted by CP/M U is misleading, because in real life, you couldn't use it with the monitor sitting on top like that, at least, not if ya wanted to use your expansion slots, cause the expansion cards stick out the top (unprotected).

--T

CP/M User
April 13th, 2006, 02:24 AM
Terry Yager wrote:

> I hate to be the voice of gloom and doom here, but I
> have to differ with ya on this. They seem like a
> PITA, too much proprietary hardware for my taste. And
> the picture posted by CP/M U is misleading, because
> in real life, you couldn't use it with the monitor
> sitting on top like that, at least, not if ya wanted
> to use your expansion slots, cause the expansion
> cards stick out the top (unprotected).

Actually I thought it was an interesting comparision between
my photo & Nathans, the second photo on the 1000bit site shows
the depth of the machine, where's the photo of mine makes it
look like a pancake! ;-)

It's an oddball machine & as such deserves one kick 'butt
game, which'll have any Amiga owner gobsmacking - it just
needs that 8bit VGA card in box - plugged out the back for 256
colours, cause I just to see 160x100x16 troubling any Amiga
user - unless it's got something simular to the PC Jnr
undocumented mode! ;-)

But that's just how I feel! ;-)

I know what you mean though - write 1 program which is only
any good for one person - yourself! ;-)

Cheers,
CP/M User.