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bbcmicro
April 28th, 2006, 08:02 AM
What is it?

IBM, apparently.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/117/141b4td.jpg

Erik
April 28th, 2006, 08:16 AM
PS/2 Model 30 or thereabouts. (http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/computer/ps2/8530-286.htm)

There were different Model 30s, though, with 8088 (8086?) or 286 chips in them and various HD sizes.

CP/M User
April 28th, 2006, 02:14 PM
Erik wrote:

> PS/2 Model 30 or thereabouts.

> There were different Model 30s, though, with 8088
> (8086?) or 286 chips in them and various HD sizes.

Wasn't there some 386/486 based machines which looked like
this? When I was going to Secondary School they had something
like this in the library, but I think it was 386 or 486 class
machine.

CP/M User.

dpatten
April 28th, 2006, 02:23 PM
If I had to guess, I'd say it was a PS/2 model 30 286. The model 30 8086 machines had a red power switch...

Vlad
April 28th, 2006, 02:25 PM
That looks identical to my 30-286. Except mines missing the hard drive cover....

-VK

bbcmicro
April 28th, 2006, 02:56 PM
I'm not sure, would a ps/2 take standard ps/2 mice and keyboard?

What about a monitor?

This comes with nothing.

Terry Yager
April 28th, 2006, 03:38 PM
I'm not sure, would a ps/2 take standard ps/2 mice and keyboard?

What about a monitor?

This comes with nothing.

<smacking self upside head>...DU-U-U-H-H-H-H...!

Yes, strange as it may seem, a PS/2 computer can use PS/2 components. Monitors are also (somewhat) standardized.

--T

CP/M User
April 28th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Terry Yager wrote:

> <smacking self upside head>...DU-U-U-H-H-H-H...!

> Yes, strange as it may seem, a PS/2 computer can use
> PS/2 components. Monitors are also (somewhat)
> standardized.

Hmmmm...

Funny as it might sound, Amstrad used standard connectors on
their IBM based PCs - though a standard Keyboard wouldn't work
on them - you need the specific keyboard which Amstrad
produced!

If ever an "Achme PS/2 connector" was designed not to support
anything but PS/2 connections - IBM certainally didn't use
them - you should have IBM's seal of Approval on that!

CP/M User.

Terry Yager
April 28th, 2006, 04:45 PM
Terry Yager wrote:

> <smacking self upside head>...DU-U-U-H-H-H-H...!

> Yes, strange as it may seem, a PS/2 computer can use
> PS/2 components. Monitors are also (somewhat)
> standardized.

Hmmmm...

Funny as it might sound, Amstrad used standard connectors on
their IBM based PCs - though a standard Keyboard wouldn't work
on them - you need the specific keyboard which Amstrad
produced!

If ever an "Achme PS/2 connector" was designed not to support
anything but PS/2 connections - IBM certainally didn't use
them - you should have IBM's seal of Approval on that!

CP/M User.

A 'standard' Mini-DIN connector does not necessarily imply compatibility with the PS/2 standard. Big difference...

--T

CP/M User
April 28th, 2006, 06:07 PM
Terry Yager wrote:

> A 'standard' Mini-DIN connector does not necessarily
> imply compatibility with the PS/2 standard. Big
> difference...

I wasn't comparing a Mini-DIN plug to a PS/2 plug. It's true
that PS/2 connections are standardized - no problems there,
but not everyone knows that & it's quite a valid point to
raise concern on, which shoudn't have resorted to sarcasm.

CP/M User.

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 04:15 AM
I knew that they should physically fit,
It was just that the standard is fairly old now so I wasn't sure if they haven't evolved at all over the years.

:shocked:

Vlad
April 29th, 2006, 04:19 AM
My IBM Model M keyboard worked with my 30-286 all the way to modern Domain Controllers. As far as I can tell, its been the same all these years. It would be a nice machine for your collection. I have two or so PS/2's. I'm donating one and keeping the other....

-VK

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 04:33 AM
I found out is a model 33, I can't seem to get much info about these. Could anyone help with links?

Vlad
April 29th, 2006, 04:48 AM
33-what? 33-286? I have a book that will give me very detailed specs on it, including its original price and date of release. I just need to know the full model number and I can tell you almost anything you need to know.

-VK

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 04:53 AM
Sorry, can't say.

:sad:

Vlad
April 29th, 2006, 04:59 AM
The book makes no mention of a 33 anything. Just a model 30 and a model 30-286. Could it be one of those? The book could just be missing that one too...

-VK

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 05:06 AM
Sorry, no idea. model 33 is the sellers description, he could be wrong?

Vlad
April 29th, 2006, 05:13 AM
Possibly. Google and the book make no mention of there ever being a Model 33. The oval IBM badge on the front should say its model number.

EDIT:

I was going to try to enhance the pic with PhotoShop to try to see it, but the quality was too low....

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 05:20 AM
I think my chances of getting it are pretty low, after seeing the end date.

Tuesday morning at 9:15. I'll be in school then! and thats not considering how high it will go, what with it being in mint condition.

oh, I early forgot I didnt post the listing. Here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8801269420&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Curses, foiled again.

Vlad
April 29th, 2006, 05:30 AM
You never know. It looks like a really nice machine.

-VK

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 09:17 AM
I was watching this for a while. since the IBM seems far far away i may make myself feel better by having a crack at this. Yet again, I know what its called, but not what it does. Looks sort of like a word processor but it's wacky so i like it. Google turned up nada. as did old-computers.com

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8799522575&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Vlad
April 29th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Looks neat. Don't know what it is though, but its intresting.

-VK

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 11:12 AM
I found a reference to a "Atlantic Research Corp. Interview 10 Protocol Analyser"

Protocol analyser? about to do a wikipedia search.

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 12:55 PM
still nothing...

Terry Yager
April 29th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Look up 'packet sniffer' on wiki...

--T

Never mind, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_analyzer

--T

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 03:09 PM
Do you think this it what it is?

I only have one casual mention and I'm not sure uf that's enough to go by...

Terry Yager
April 29th, 2006, 03:17 PM
I dunno, I haven't seen the webpage you found describing it as a p/a, but if it is one, it's well worth the asking bid, just for the kewl factor. Even more so if you actually *use* it.

--T

carlsson
April 29th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I'd expect it to be some on-field terminal/computer in industrial use, perhaps aviation as Atlantic Research Corperation seems to have been something working with space equipment? Impossible to tell if this unit was custom made or licensed from some other manufacturer.

carlsson
April 29th, 2006, 03:21 PM
I think the reference to protocol analyzer may come from this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/INTERVIEW-4500-PROTOCAL-ANALYZER-BY-ATLANTIC-RESEARCH_W0QQitemZ7606754592QQcategoryZ97192QQcmdZ ViewItem

bbcmicro
April 29th, 2006, 03:24 PM
I did see this, but no. It came from a forum of somesort (I knew i should have bookmarked it) And it definitely said Atlantic Research Corporation Interviewer 10. If it is a packet sniffer, I will be in debate with myself wether I'll actually use it. I find it hard to buy something I'm not going to use, just look at.

carlsson
April 29th, 2006, 03:30 PM
Yep, it was a post to the newsgroup sci.electronics.repair in July 2005 about someone who had a bunch of interesting stuff on eBay, including a such Interview 10.

mbbrutman
April 29th, 2006, 06:09 PM
Moved into the PCs and Clones area ..

bbcmicro
April 30th, 2006, 03:10 AM
Aha, that was it.

I think I might save my money, this time.

carlsson
April 30th, 2006, 05:45 AM
Probably a good choice, if you don't have a clue what you're bidding on and little chance to find documentation afterwards. There should be plenty of interesting computers, including PS/2 and others, if you're just looking around for anything.

Terry Yager
April 30th, 2006, 07:25 AM
I thought it interesting enough. I'd be bidding on it myself if it were closer to home, I'm just afraid the shipping would break my back.

--T

bbcmicro
April 30th, 2006, 07:43 AM
Its just not my thing. I've not been into computers very long. I got my first computer 2 years ago (after sharing family PC for a year) and i first went on the internet 4 years ago at school. Since then I've learnt a lot, mainly through breaking and subsequently having to fix my computers. Meanwhile, I'm trying to stick with things I'm familiar with (IBM clones, MS-DOS & BASIC machines) and then later on I'll branch out into CP/M, UNIX and wierd and undocumented things like this Interviewer 10 when I have a bit more understanding and knowledge. At least thats my action plan, anyway.

carlsson
April 30th, 2006, 01:47 PM
Yep, unusual machines can be interesting if you are certain to get some kind of docs or support. Without it, at best it will boot to some default, and then you scratch your head wondering what to do next.

bbcmicro
May 2nd, 2006, 07:10 AM
I bid on the IBM and was outbid by 2!

Ah well, I'm saving my cash for a nice sharp portable.

bbcmicro
May 4th, 2006, 01:11 PM
Got the sharp portable.