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USSEnterprise
June 13th, 2006, 12:58 PM
I have a few other hobbies than this, pinball and robotics. I have 1 EM pinball and one SS, and am on the robotics team at school. Here's what I need the old computer for. I need to learn assembly for the robotics team, and I need to be able to burn EEPROMS for the Pinball Machine. What would be a good machine to do this on?

atari2600a
June 13th, 2006, 01:04 PM
There's plenty of books for documentation for assembly, & there's plenty of EPROM burners for any PC. I have one, well half of one. It's missing the control board (PCI board).

(Please note that assembly is different for each CPU, it's not universial like C++ or BASIC)

Terry Yager
June 13th, 2006, 01:28 PM
What sort of CPU are you looking at? If an 8-bitter will suit your needs, I'd suggest the Z80. It's fairly simple to work with and documentation is very abundant.

--T

atari2600a
June 13th, 2006, 01:31 PM
...Plus, the Z80 was used in alot of arcade machines of it's era, if that would help w/ the Pinball collecting business. (What PinBall machines do you have?)

Terry Yager
June 13th, 2006, 01:57 PM
...and, what kind of EPROMs will you be needing to blow?

--T

USSEnterprise
June 13th, 2006, 01:59 PM
The BS2SX processoris what the robotics system uses. As far as pinball machines, I have a Williams Space Mission and a Williams Flash

Terry Yager
June 13th, 2006, 02:01 PM
OK, I'm outta here...I have zero knowledge of that processor, so I can be of no help whatsoever...

--T

atari2600a
June 13th, 2006, 02:03 PM
Yeah, as far as friends go, Google is your only friend on this one!!!:p

80sFreak
June 13th, 2006, 02:34 PM
I just did a quick search on Google and found this - Parallax (http://www.parallax.com/detail.asp?product_id=BS2SX-IC). It uses a form of the BASIC programming language.

Cheers,

80sFreak

Terry Yager
June 13th, 2006, 03:51 PM
Yes, a BASIC Stamp is a good choice for a pre-built controller (I didn't realize they used that chip). I'm pretty sure there is an EPROM programmer module available from Parallax, designed to work with thier hardware.

--T

Chris2005
June 13th, 2006, 04:41 PM
the classic eprom burner wasn't specific to a machine I don't think. Lots used the parallel port. I have a book, unfortunately all stuck together do to getting wet and mildewed, which had several project burners that were controlled by BASIC, and therefore could be run off on nearly any machine (hmm perhaps the earlier projects in the book were off the serial port I'm thinking). You could do a search on Amazon, obviously eprom is in the title, and I doubt you'll be inundated with hits. It was published by Tab ~late 80's I think.

Terry Yager
June 13th, 2006, 04:47 PM
I have several books that cover the subject, most of which are geared towards the Z80 processor. I tend to keep them all within easy reach for reference purposes.

--T

carlsson
June 14th, 2006, 02:08 AM
I picked up a free IEEE based EPROM burner capable of 2 and 4K chips, but I don't have any software or could find any generic one. I think I should look for some other burner, perhaps one that can take 8 or 16K chips as well.

GaryC
June 26th, 2006, 07:59 AM
The Basic Stamp programs in an optimised version of tiny BASIC. You can download a Windows development system from parallax. The Basic Stamp uses it own serial communications protocol to load programs.

I know the development software works with windows 95. I haven't used it since that version.

If you want to develop arcade ROM you need to get the MAME emulator for testing, and find the proper cross assemblers in the Gnu Compiler Collection (GCC) the Zilog Z80 and the Mostek 6502 were common chips in the older arcade games. some newer games use motorola 68000 chips and Some may use custom video coprocessors.

When you get away from the Windows/Intel world there is a plethora of interesting and innovative processors out there.