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NicolasF
July 4th, 2006, 07:56 AM
Is there any way to make a network with a PC-XT using the serial or parellel port??

Jorg
July 4th, 2006, 08:45 AM
There used to be programs like LapLink to do that. Or you could copy files with Norton Commander.

For a real network, there still are MS drivers for MS-DOS, but then you need network cards.
http://www.helmig.com/

mbbrutman
July 4th, 2006, 09:34 AM
There were a lot of small scale solutions that would let two machines share files over a serial or parallel port link. I was looking for the one in particular that caught my eye, but I can't seem to find the link. (Time to weed the bookmarks out.)

A good way to network today using the serial port would be to use TCP/IP with a packet driver that does a SLIP connection. This is equivalent to the way people used to connect to the Internet via a modem before PPP became popular. (Back in the early 90s people used SLIP to connect to their ISP.)

A cheating way to network is to put a parallel-port to Ethernet adapter on your parallel port. I do this with my old machines to get them on the household ethernet. This usually has much better throughput than a serial link.

Terry Yager
July 4th, 2006, 09:40 AM
There's also the Xircom 'Pocket Ethernet' adaptor, that hangs off a serial port. They can regularly be found very cheaply on e*:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-4-XIRCOM-Pocket-III-Ethernet-Adapters-PE3-10BT_W0QQitemZ200002879413QQihZ010QQcategoryZ42195 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--T

NathanAllan
July 4th, 2006, 11:56 PM
There's also the Xircom 'Pocket Ethernet' adaptor, that hangs off a serial port. They can regularly be found very cheaply on e*:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-4-XIRCOM-Pocket-III-Ethernet-Adapters-PE3-10BT_W0QQitemZ200002879413QQihZ010QQcategoryZ42195 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--T
ooh... those xircom's look like they would work well on any computer with a serial port. <coughataricough>. But see if you can't get any ISA network cards. If you get the isa cards, be sure to go through the tutorials, dos networking can be a bear(it was for me til I figgered it out).

Nathan

mbbrutman
July 5th, 2006, 06:03 AM
The Xircom PE3-10BT was exactly what I was referring to when I said 'parallel port to Ethernet adapter.

They are for parallel ports though, not serial ports. That would be a bad mistake to make.

I'm using mine on a PCjr with a packet driver and Trumpet TCP/IP. I'm also writing packets to the packet driver directly using my old half-baked TCP/IP.

Terry Yager
July 5th, 2006, 06:32 AM
The Xircom PE3-10BT was exactly what I was referring to when I said 'parallel port to Ethernet adapter.

They are for parallel ports though, not serial ports. That would be a bad mistake to make.

I'm using mine on a PCjr with a packet driver and Trumpet TCP/IP. I'm also writing packets to the packet driver directly using my old half-baked TCP/IP.

Oh, OK. Sorry, I thought they came both ways.

--T

NicolasF
July 7th, 2006, 09:30 AM
But see if you can't get any ISA network cards. If you get the isa cards
Nathan

Nope, it's imposible to find an ISA network card for a PC-XT here...
I was able to build a null cable modem, but it's very slow.
I just want to connect my XT with the internet. I used to do it with a dial-up connection but now I have ADSL and I can't do it anymore.
Any idea if this is possible??

mbbrutman
July 7th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Then get the Xircom adapter. On eBay they usually run less than $10.

Mad-Mike
July 7th, 2006, 10:35 PM
You can use some 16 bit cards on XT's too. I've used Intel EtherExpress 8/16 ISA cards (16 bit) on an XT successfully before with Microsoft Network Client 3.0.

Chris2005
July 8th, 2006, 07:52 AM
but that's a 10baseT card. Can you simply use an adapter if yer *at least* trying to get it to work with a modern network?

Mad-Mike
July 9th, 2006, 06:32 PM
but that's a 10baseT card. Can you simply use an adapter if yer *at least* trying to get it to work with a modern network?

Yep, it's a late model with regular ethernet and a DB-15 shell on it. Here's some pictures of it preparing to nab some files off my LAN, it's a 286, but it works pretty much the same on an 8088.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/executioner020983/eth16-1.jpg
The Ethernet port is plugged in next to the LED. I know it's a little blurry, my digial camera stinks for close ups.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/executioner020983/onnetwork.jpg
Here's a picture of the network client pulling shared drives from my 2 other machines running on the network, a Pentium III Running Windows 98 SE, and a 486 running Windows For Workgroups 3.11. All three PC's can talk to each other and share files, and the Win98 PC can even see the DOS PC in My Network Neighborhood.