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jjzcp
July 13th, 2006, 12:11 AM
Hello, it's been awhile scince last on this forum, and i thought it was about time i bug you guys for some advice. Hmm, how should i put this? Well... one of my friends decided to download windows XP in an .iso file off of limewire, and well he was wondering that scince this particular version of windows didn't have a activation time limit, could the person who had this file before him of tampered with it. My "friend" already installed the Windows XP on two of his computer and they both work fine infact he is posting er i mean i am posting with one right now.


Just scince he is not familular with XP he was curious.

dongfeng
July 13th, 2006, 12:17 AM
The best solution would be to buy an original - you never know what has been tampered with in an online download. Could be key-loggers galore!

For the sake of the $50 or so an original OEM copy would cost, it's not worth the risk. Plus you'll be able to download Windows Updates without having to download a new LegitCheck.dll every couple of weeks, plus you'll be able to download all the free "extras" like Windows Defender :)

CP/M User
July 13th, 2006, 02:31 AM
Doesn't matter how many times you ask me this - I still
wouldn't take the risk of downloading some copy of WinXP - get
the one with the Certificate.

A friend of mine had their computer stuff up on account of
some hot copy of XP being used - not worth it mate - we're not
talking about something which can easily be uninstalled - it's
something which controls your computer system for petes sake!

CP/M User.

Vlad
July 13th, 2006, 04:35 AM
As a Microsoft Partner and OEM system builder, I can tell you first hand that having a downloaded copy of XP does way more harm than good. People tend to blow the wistle to MS in hopes of a reward. You get a letter thanking you and praise for being such a good person. Thats it. I'd be safe and get a copy from a store. You wouldn't believe the stuff we find inside of those downloaded copies when people bring them to us when it stops working or does something suspicious. Keyloggers, backdoors, remote control programs, spyware, they are far from secure.

NOTE:
No I don't taddle to MS, we don't exactly get along. I have seen other people do it. By first hand experence I mean people bringing it to me to try to "fix" it. Fix as in remove WPA (Windows Product Activation)

carlsson
July 13th, 2006, 07:02 AM
How is it, will an OEM version installed on a brand new computer (of course!) have the same rights of downloading service packs as a full version? I remember reading some discussion elsewhere this winter claiming difference in policy.

Vlad
July 13th, 2006, 07:04 AM
There should be no difference at all. The differences are OEM System Builder Disks do not have Activation in them. OEM Disks have activation. OEM is what comes with you computer, OEM System Builder disks are what manufacturers have. Then there's Retail which has activation and all that good stuff.

-VK

tgunner
July 13th, 2006, 08:11 AM
For the sake of the $50 or so an original OEM copy would cost, it's not worth the risk.

Last time I checked, OEM XP Home was around $80, and XP Pro around $125. These prices are a lot for most people as they don't see what Windows does. The average user sees the OS as part of the computer, and only thinks of buying software which runs on top of it.

If your friend just does basic computing with it, why not give linux, or freeBSD a try?

atari2600a
July 13th, 2006, 08:24 AM
I think it's Home ed. that's $125, not Pro.

Vlad
July 13th, 2006, 08:29 AM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=26

Not Too Bad...

-VK

dongfeng
July 13th, 2006, 08:32 AM
Home Edition OEM is about 50 here, that's $92. And software is always cheaper in the States, so $80 is realistic :)

tgunner
July 13th, 2006, 08:40 AM
I think it's Home ed. that's $125, not Pro.

Believe me atari, I know my prices, at least online prices. If you went to a retail store, home edition could be close to $125 especially if it is the retail box version.

CP/M User
July 13th, 2006, 03:19 PM
What is the difference between the Home version & the Pro?

I've just got the home edition on my system & it seems to be
just as good as the ones at School (which are using Pro I
think). I just assumed the Pro was equivalent of Windows NT -
more networking support within Windows - but of course I don't
need that!

CP/M User.

tgunner
July 13th, 2006, 06:01 PM
Pro does indeed have better networking support, along with support for a second CPU.

atari2600a
July 14th, 2006, 06:24 AM
Plus Home has a whole bunch of wizards & a dumbed down Control Panel.

dongfeng
July 14th, 2006, 07:16 AM
My desktop is Pro, my laptop Home :) Control panels are the same, can't find any difference in the wizards either.

From what I can tell, the only differences are the ones tgunner mentions - networking (in a coporate environment, domains and so forth) and second CPU. Home doesn't have IIS built in either.

atari2600a
July 14th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Are you sure? I could swear that the Control Panel...Controls look different, maybe there's a selection somewhere when you install Pro or Home, or maybe somewhere in the Windows Explorer properties. Either way, I know I've seen the white Contol Panel w/ the normal Icons in XP somewhere...

I'm using Media Center Edition on my laptop right now, so I can't be sure...

bbcmicro
July 14th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Im sure Professional boots and shuts down quicker. Although I may be imagining it.

dongfeng
July 14th, 2006, 10:59 AM
Are you sure? I could swear that the Control Panel...Controls look different, maybe there's a selection somewhere when you install Pro or Home, or maybe somewhere in the Windows Explorer properties. Either way, I know I've seen the white Contol Panel w/ the normal Icons in XP somewhere...

I'm using Media Center Edition on my laptop right now, so I can't be sure...

Do you mean category view vs classic view? It's a feature you can turn on and off in either version.

mbbrutman
July 14th, 2006, 11:14 AM
You know guys, there are plenty of places to discuss Win XP and the differences between home and professional. And you might get a definitive answer as well.

dongfeng
July 14th, 2006, 12:07 PM
It is the off-topic section :)

Erik
July 14th, 2006, 01:11 PM
It is the off-topic section :)

I don't think he was suggesting you not discuss it here, just that there is a lot more targetted expertise elsewhere. ;)

carlsson
July 15th, 2006, 12:57 AM
OEM XP Home [..] $80, and XP Pro [..] $125
Over here: OEM XP Home $140, OEM XP Pro $225, Full XP Pro $515 (those are prices from a large, inexpensive webshop - probably a bit higher in a store). Of course including the 25% VAT.

atari2600a
July 15th, 2006, 01:04 AM
damn, how can you afford to eat?

carlsson
July 15th, 2006, 01:13 AM
We prioritize, and don't buy a new copy of Windows every year. Also, since a lot of the social support is (supposedly) tax financed, we don't have to put money aside on a health insurance etc.