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josephdaniel
July 19th, 2013, 04:17 PM
I know there have been a few threads like this before but this is different hence the "revised edition"
This thread is for people to post what they think (or is) would be their ultimate 8088 machine. :cool:


Here is my ultimate IBM 5160
Slot 1:XT-FDC
Slot 2: Ethernet card
Slot 3: IBM game control adapter (the analog input card)
Slot 4: EGA card (switchable between MDA, CGA, and EGA)
Slot 5: IBM serial/parallel card
Slot 6: Hayes full length modem
Slot 7: WDXT-GEN MFM hard drive controller
Slot 8: IBM asynchronous adapter



Motherboard Modifications

1. Modify mother board to hold 1MB of RAM
2. 8087 FPU
3. Fujitsu 8088 (It looks nice.)



Disk Drives

X2 360 DSDD 5.25 drives
X2 Seagate ST-225 20MB MFM hard drives


External Items

1. 100MB Iomega parallel port zip drive
2. Parallel port backpack CD drive
3. IBM 3.5 inch external floppy drive
4. Dot matrix printer

k2x4b524[
July 19th, 2013, 05:08 PM
Slot 1: 5161 Sender / Receiver board combo
Slot 2: Intel Etherlink 8/16 Ethernet
Slot 3: Super I/O Board w/ floppy controller and clock disabled (Serial on, Parallel on, Game off)
Slot 4: 8-Bit VGA Board
Slot 5: Creative CT-1350B
Slot 6: 8-Bit HD-Floppy Controller w/ 2.88mb support + 2 additional floppies
Slot 7: XT-IDE Adapter
Slot 8: Orchid Tiny Turbo 286

In the expansion chassis
Slot 1: 8-Bit scsi card for cd-rom and tape support if required, internal or external

Motherboard Mods


1. RTC Chip planted under the rom chip for seamless and tsr-less time keeping
2. Intel 80287-10

Disk Drives

1x half height 360kb
1x Half height 1.2mb
1x 2.88mb 3.5mb
1x 540mb hard drive

In Expansion
1x SCSI CD-Rom, or DVD-RAM for file transfers

I know it seems a waste of the expansion chassis to do that with, but that's why it's called the Expansion Chassis, for current or future expansion.

marcoguy
July 19th, 2013, 06:31 PM
Slot 1: IBM 5161 extender/receiver
Slot 2: Serial/Parallel/RTC card
Slot 3: 3Com Etherlink II
Slot 4: 8-bit VGA Adapter
Slot 5: Empty (Until I can get my hands on a Sound Blaster card!)
Slot 6: Empty (Until I can get my MACH 20 working!)
Slot 7: 8-bit FDC with support for 4 FDDs, including 2.88Mb, and QIC-80 tape units
Slot 8: Microsoft InPort adapter (with original Microsoft InPort mouse)

Mobo mods:
none! I kept it all original

Drives:

2X IBM DSDD 360K FDDs
1.44Mb FDD
1.2Mb FDD

In the 5161:

Seagate ST-225
SCSI CD-ROM drive
2x 1Gb SCSI HDDs

I got some of those parts from you, k2x4b524[:D

gerrydoire
July 19th, 2013, 06:54 PM
A 4 Generation i7 running an IBM XT 5160 Emulator!!

The possibilities are unlimited! :P

Great Hierophant
July 19th, 2013, 09:26 PM
My approach would be the pure IBM method, slot configuration is as follows :

1 - IBM Asychronous Communications Adapter
2 - IBM Game Control Adapter
3 - IBM Fixed Disk Adapter
4 - IBM Diskette Drive Adapter
5 - IBM Monochrome Display and Printer Adapter
6 - IBM Color/Graphics Display Adapter
7 - IBM Printer Adapter
8 - IBM Asychronous Communications Adapter

sergey
July 19th, 2013, 10:33 PM
Motherboard Mods


1. RTC Chip planted under the rom chip for seamless and tsr-less time keeping
2. Intel 80287-10


How do you make 80287 work with 8088?

k2x4b524[
July 19th, 2013, 11:41 PM
Orchid tiny turbo 286, it's a board that lets you use an 80286 in a pc, while still being able to select and use the 8088 *after a restart of course*

Mine worked great until it went Poof!


How do you make 80287 work with 8088?

per
July 20th, 2013, 07:29 AM
I am quite pleased with my curent setup;

5160 mobo with no modifications, 200W PSU.
1: SoundBlaster 1.5 with CMS chips
2: Intel AboveBoard with 8MB RAM, backfilling to 640KB and keeping the rest as EMS.
3: ATI VGA Wonder v4
4: Central Point Option Board Deluxe
5: Serial/Parallel IO card.
6: XT-IDE with a 40GB hdd.
7: Modern FDC
8: Additional contacts for the I/O card at slot 5.

As of devices, I have the original FH 5.25" FDD as the B drive, and a more recent 3.5" drive as the A drive. A BIOS overlay driver loaded at startup allows 1.44MB FDDs to be used.

This setup has anything I need. The Graphics card can emulate CGA and MDA, while keeping compability with EGA and VGA, a versatile soundcard, lots of memory, lots of storage, and otherwise lots of I/O and comunication options.

Compgeke
July 20th, 2013, 11:35 AM
Well, going with a stock XT setup, I'm pretty happy with mine, the only thing that would make it better is an XT-IDE (or similar) card.

From memory, this is what it has, too lazy to open it up.
1.) Western Digital VGA card
2.) NE2000 network card
3.) DTK Gameport adapter
4.) AST Six Pack Plus with 384KB ram
5.) Stock floppy controller, original 360KB floppy drives.
6.) Stock hard drive controller, original 10 MB hard drive.
7.) 10 MHz 286 Upgrade card, plugs into the CPU socket.

SomeGuy
July 20th, 2013, 12:09 PM
^ And all this configurability and expansion is what made IBM PCs and clones so great.

Q: How would you like your Apple Macintosh configured? A: The One True Way Steve wants It. :D - I exaggerate, but also true of many other proprietary machines, and still true for smart phones and tablets today.

sergey
July 20th, 2013, 12:26 PM
Using a 286/386 upgrade card seems to be a bit of cheating :-)
You could have replaced motherboard with a Pentium III (or whatever was the last MB in Baby-AT form factor) one as well :-)

Caluser2000
July 20th, 2013, 12:36 PM
Using a 286/386 upgrade card seems to be a bit of cheating :-)
You could have replaced motherboard with a Pentium III (or whatever was the last MB in Baby-AT form factor) one as well :-)Now there's an idea......If I can't figure out whats wrong with my PC/XT clone I'll do extactly that. Using EGA graphics of course.

k2x4b524[
July 20th, 2013, 12:38 PM
It's only cheating if you remove the 5160 mainboard completely, here i only transplanted the 8088 to the Tiny Turbo, so i can still use the 8088 :P


Using a 286/386 upgrade card seems to be a bit of cheating :-)
You could have replaced motherboard with a Pentium III (or whatever was the last MB in Baby-AT form factor) one as well :-)

josephdaniel
July 20th, 2013, 12:48 PM
Also modifying a motherboard in a XT to hold 640 isnt cheating either since IBM invented it and the socket comes even on the 64-256k models.

Trixter
July 20th, 2013, 09:12 PM
I don't have a single "best" 8088 because I do different things with them, and the nature of what I do means it is impossible for a single 8088 system to handle everything.

My two favorite setups, which I have turned on right now on both sides of me, are:

1. IBM 5160+5161+CGA+MDA. Used as a dev platform for CGA graphics and archiving diskettes. Contains a NIC, option board, EMS hardware board, IDE controller (soon to be an XTIDECFv3!), dual floppies, sound blaster pro. 9 of the available 14 slots are filled.

2. IBM PCjr + jrIDE (http://www.brutman.com/jrIDE/). Used as a dev platform for the PCjr. jrIDE gives it 768K RAM and an 8GB flash hard drive.

Both are used for games as well, of course.