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ZoSo925
August 28th, 2006, 12:20 AM
Hi, I need help trying to identify what these are. They are Franklin Apple II Clones, but not sure what exact
Franklin system they belong to. Ie- 1000, 2000, 2200

Will Franklin parts fit and work into an Apple II based computer, or just Franklin only?



#1 - Looks like a modem

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/001.JPG


#2 - Printer Interface?

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/002.JPG


#3 - ??

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/003.JPG


#4 - Audio ?

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/004.JPG


#5 - ???

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/005.JPG


#6 - Floppy Controller ?

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/006.JPG


#7 - Audio ?

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/007.JPG


#8 - Memory Chips ?

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/008.JPG


#9 - Modem for Commodore 64/Vic-20 ??

http://7dust.net/Pictures/Hardware/009.JPG

carlsson
August 28th, 2006, 06:15 AM
#3 - ??
Doesn't the biggest chip say Z80B CPU? Could it be some Z80 co-processor card for your Apple clone?

#9 - Modem for Commodore 64/Vic-20 ??
Hard to tell from that direction. Maybe if you can take a picture of the connector, it is easier to tell the number of pins.

ZoSo925
August 28th, 2006, 09:05 AM
I'll take more pictures later today.

What about compatibility? Will these fit into an Apple II or only work on Franklin Ace system?

Computer Collector
September 3rd, 2006, 11:44 PM
do you have an extra Frankin Ace 500 power supply?

ZoSo925
September 5th, 2006, 08:41 AM
do you have an extra Frankin Ace 500 power supply?


Actually I do have 1. Brand new in box, never used. Not sure what version it is though- Id have to check

Elar
September 6th, 2006, 10:17 AM
#3 is ACE 80 Z80 co-processor card designed by PCPI. More here:

http://www.mylinuxisp.com/~jdbaker/oldsite/SmallSys/AppliCard.html

ZoSo925
September 16th, 2006, 05:15 PM
Does anyone know if this hardware will run on an Apple II ?

¿Cualquier persona sabe si este hardware funciona en un Apple II?

このハードウェアがApple II で動くかどうかだれでも知っているか。

Weiß jemand, wenn diese Kleinteile auf einen Apple II laufen?

Est-ce que n'importe qui sait si ce matériel fonctionnera sur un Apple II ?

Любое знает если это оборудование побежит на apple II?

dreddnott
September 16th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Good old Babelfish.

Yeah, I don't think "run on" was the right choice of words for some of the languages - particularly Japanese.

Personally I don't know that much about the Franklins.

carlsson
September 16th, 2006, 06:15 PM
Erik has at least two Franklin Ace on his webpage collection, and in the box of specs it says that the bus is "Apple ][ compatible". What that means in practise, someone else should elaborate on. I suppose in order to be compatible (to the degree they got into a lawsuit), the hardware bus can't be implemented in a radically different way.

The big question is which kind of drivers, software or ROM options you might need to use these expansion boards, and if you have access to it.

carlsson
September 16th, 2006, 06:18 PM
do you have an extra Frankin Ace 500 power supply?
Dunno if you need for collection purposes or only functionality, but on this page you have a document describing the power connector, in case you can craft your own power supply from another source.

http://www.apple2clones.com/?q=taxonomy/page/or/194

MystikShadows
September 16th, 2006, 06:54 PM
#3 looks like (from apple memory) an memory expansion card. I'm guessing 16 or 32 KB from the chips on the left.

MystikShadows
September 16th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Alsy the direct-connect from westridge is indeed a c64 modem. if I recall, it's a 2400 bps modem.

Terry Yager
September 16th, 2006, 07:29 PM
Will Franklin parts fit and work into an Apple II based computer, or just Franklin only?

Yes. Or no. Mebbe...sometimes. Most cards are interchangable, however...

From the manual of my ALS Z-Engine:

"There are several different protocols commonly used to run these cards. Some standards, such as the firmware protocol, have helped to reduce these problems. Nevertheless, there will always be some products that are incompatible."

And yes, #3 does appear to be a Z80 board (with it's own mem on-board) for running CP/M. The PCPI was a pretty popular board, so finding software for it might not be too difficult.

--T

nige the hippy
September 18th, 2006, 02:17 AM
a negative....

i think i recognise no 2 as a printer interface for a printer, it says OKI on it, I think it's a parallel option for a microline printer.