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bbcmicro
September 4th, 2006, 12:27 PM
I just spotted this, listed as a Commodore 64:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Comodore-C4-Computer_W0QQitemZ160024249750QQihZ006QQcategoryZ4 193QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I know/think it's a C116. Are these particularly rare? Anyone know anything about this machine? Im curious. Could be a bargian due to inocrrect listing

carlsson
September 4th, 2006, 12:38 PM
Close, but no cigar. It is a Plus/4, which belongs to the same series as Commodore 16 and 116. They are uncommon, but not extremely rare unless in very nice condition w/ box (cmp. to what dreddnott fished up from the recycling station). However, the custom audio/video chip tends to break often, and sometimes the CPU as well, so in untested condition without power supply or other leads, it shouldn't be worth too much. Some people looking for a bargain would limit themselves to 5, some would go up to 10-15, maybe a bit more if you already had a flakey unit and hoped this one could be for spares.

The C116 is a model with rubber keyboard a'la ZX Spectrum. It is more uncommon though, as it mainly (only?) was released in Europe, and only in a few countries to that. Yet I have a friend who recently bought two (!) boxed C116 from various eBay auctions, for relatively small money.

bbcmicro
September 4th, 2006, 01:14 PM
Ah well, it was a good guess :)

carlsson
September 4th, 2006, 02:36 PM
I don't know if the auction has been revised or if it was us misreading, but it says Comodore (sic!) C4, not Commodore C64. So the seller knows thinks the model number is C4, which is pretty close to Plus/4. Now that you know that, you can barely read it out from the big picture.

Now, had that been a 264 or 364 prototype (the predecessors that eventually turned out into C16, Plus/4 etc), it would certainly have been valuable. If it had been the 364 prototype with speech synthesis, it would be a top item.

bbcmicro
September 4th, 2006, 02:52 PM
I didn't notice the C4, I suppose when skim reading I do miss stuff.

carlsson
September 4th, 2006, 02:57 PM
If you were anywhere near Birmingham, that Amstrad CPC464 going for 1.04 with six hours left might be a good buy. The seller is not interested in shipping it. I suppose only local pickup limits the number of bids quite a lot.

bbcmicro
September 4th, 2006, 03:13 PM
Yup, many a good system has gone for less than its value because of pick-up-only

Unfortunately Bimingham is ~100 miles south of me, and I dont think many parents would be willing to drive their kids a 2 hour journey for what is in their eye, a peice of junk, worse luck!

carlsson
September 4th, 2006, 03:18 PM
From a different thread:

I wonder if you can get some USSR systems out your way.

In case anyone is interested, I saw there is a Russian computer on eBay at the moment: Vector 06C-02. Shipping only within Europe, but the payment goes to "my partner in USA", probably because PayPal et.al. don't operate in Moldova.

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220023340963

bbcmicro
September 5th, 2006, 12:36 AM
That guy has been selling quite a few Russian computers, mostly spectrum clones. They usually fetch a good price.