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juicylemon
October 27th, 2014, 01:14 PM
I have these two sealed packages with OEM versions of MS-DOS and Windows. The left package says Microsoft Windows for Workgroups and MS-DOS 6.2. Does anybody know what version of Windows this actually is? Windows 3.1 or Windows 3.11? I would also like to know what MS-DOS version of right package is.
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Caluser2000
October 27th, 2014, 01:57 PM
I have these two sealed packages with OEM versions of MS-DOS and Windows. The left package says Microsoft Windows for Workgroups and MS-DOS 6.2. Does anybody know what version of Windows this actually is? Windows 3.1 or Windows 3.11? I would also like to know what MS-DOS version of right package is.
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21218I have the English equivalent. It'll be Windows for Workgroups 3.11. That Dos graphic is similar to my boxed copy of MS Dos 5.0. My OEM MS-Dos Concise User Guide (AKA handbook) has a blue diamond with "Includes DoulbleSpace" in white lettering. Looks like the letters on the "DOS" two toned though so may well be later looking at other images online.

juicylemon
October 28th, 2014, 12:53 PM
Ok, thank you

barythrin
October 28th, 2014, 01:12 PM
I had (mistakenly) thought that "Windows for Workgroups" automatically meant 3.11 but I guess there was a 3.1 also? That is per Microsoft's support article. (https://support.microsoft.com/kb/126746). I thought the "for Workgroups" was the part that implied networking, but I guess I just missed the v3.1 product. Not that I would have been paying for bleeding edge back then.

Caluser2000
October 28th, 2014, 03:20 PM
Only main difference is WfW 3.1 could run on a 286 but you still couldn't use the networking part as that required a 386 or above. WfW 3.11 killed Standard Mode as an option, had a few core files changed and support for more devices. The core files are easily able to get hold of http://www.mdgx.com/w31toy.htm#W3X Some other nice Win/WfW 3.1x goodies on that link as well.

amadama
October 28th, 2014, 04:46 PM
Only main difference is WfW 3.1 could run on a 286 but you still couldn't use the networking part as that required 386 Enhanced Mode. WFW 3.11 killed Standard Mode as an option, had a few core files changed and support for more devices. The core files are easily able to get hold of http://www.mdgx.com/w31toy.htm#W3X Some other nice Win/WfW 3.1x goodies on that link as well.

That's a gold mine of useful stuff for wfw. Thanks!

Caluser2000
October 28th, 2014, 05:08 PM
You're welcome AXCELs site has been around since the mid 90s iirc seems to add bits as they come along. A few links are broken now though.

SpidersWeb
October 28th, 2014, 05:35 PM
For the DOS version I still get the inkling it's actually DOS 6.22 - just don't think I've seen a fancy authenticity badge + product key sticker like that on anything earlier than mid-90's. My OEM packs do not have the artwork, but doing a google image search I see some of the foreign market 6.22's do have it. Couldn't be certain without opening it or getting a date code or something similar though.


I had (mistakenly) thought that "Windows for Workgroups" automatically meant 3.11 but I guess there was a 3.1 also? That is per Microsoft's support article. (https://support.microsoft.com/kb/126746). I thought the "for Workgroups" was the part that implied networking, but I guess I just missed the v3.1 product. Not that I would have been paying for bleeding edge back then.

It's pretty rare, I've never seen it in the flesh myself.

Workgroup Add On for DOS is quite handy easily forgotten about tool too - server/client but no Windows.

Caluser2000
October 28th, 2014, 08:12 PM
You can strip the networking stuff from wfw for use in plain Dos http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network/wfwdos.htm There was a copy of wfw 3.1 on trademe about a year or so ago.

Caluser2000
October 31st, 2014, 07:17 PM
For the DOS version I still get the inkling it's actually DOS 6.22 - just don't think I've seen a fancy authenticity badge + product key sticker like that on anything earlier than mid-90's. My OEM packs do not have the artwork, but doing a google image search I see some of the foreign market 6.22's do have it. Couldn't be certain without opening it or getting a date code or something similar though..Found a copy today whilst having a clean out. It's 6.22. The Cert. of Auth. just has a 9 digit number though. My copy was made in Singapore. No rego card diamond on the OPs one though. Different market I guess.

SpidersWeb
November 2nd, 2014, 12:55 PM
You can strip the networking stuff from wfw for use in plain Dos http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/library/network/wfwdos.htm There was a copy of wfw 3.1 on trademe about a year or so ago.

Yeah, that's basically what the Workgroup Add On is without manually copying files / big Windows install :) Has it's own setup program etc.
Also runs quite happily next to NWLite, which is why I'm using it. DOS 3 to Windows 7 - all can access the same hard drive + printer (without my XT's wasting > 100 KB of RAM)

Must've missed that 3.1 WFW, I probably assumed they meant 3.11 and skipped over it. I see Windows NT 3.1 is there at the moment though.

Caluser2000
November 2nd, 2014, 02:16 PM
You can also ad server capability the MS Dos network client software by just using a patch from Workgroups for Dos. You can read about it at --> http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/dos.html Here's page with a link to get the file http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Networking_FreeDOS_-_MS_Client

Yeah it'll be interesting to see how that goes. No books etc though. I've got the complete NT 3.51 Server package sans box.