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Teufelhunden
October 28th, 2014, 07:03 PM
I have a recently acquired 5150 PC up and running and I was wondering what is the recommended way to get files onto a floppy (it doesn't have a hard drive). I searched the forums and someone mentioned using a parallel port Iomega Zip drive and swapping the drive between old and new computers. Not sure how I would get the Zip drive working on the 5150. The 5150 has an AST Six Pak Plus card installed. I searched the forums and Google but I'm not sure where to start or even what I should be searching for.

modem7
October 30th, 2014, 10:11 PM
I have a recently acquired 5150 PC up and running and I was wondering what is the recommended way to get files onto a floppy (it doesn't have a hard drive). I searched the forums and someone mentioned using a parallel port Iomega Zip drive and swapping the drive between old and new computers. Not sure how I would get the Zip drive working on the 5150. The 5150 has an AST Six Pak Plus card installed. I searched the forums and Google but I'm not sure where to start or even what I should be searching for.
Some methods are at:
1. Goto http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/
2. Click on the link: 'Transferring Files From a Modern PC to an Old PC'

Of those methods, the use of 720K diskettes in a 1.44M drive attached to the 5150, is explained in more detail at [here (http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/5150_5160/720k/5150_5160_boot_using_720k.htm)].

Stone
October 31st, 2014, 03:39 AM
Where are you in NJ? I'm near Philly.

You could use a parallel port network program like U-NET II to transfer files between two computers.

Teufelhunden
October 31st, 2014, 06:14 PM
Some methods are at:
1. Goto http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/
2. Click on the link: 'Transferring Files From a Modern PC to an Old PC'

Of those methods, the use of 720K diskettes in a 1.44M drive attached to the 5150, is explained in more detail at [here (http://www.minuszerodegrees.net/5150_5160/720k/5150_5160_boot_using_720k.htm)].

This is really good info. I didn't know I could run a 3.5" drive so this is definitely an option.




Where are you in NJ? I'm near Philly.

You could use a parallel port network program like U-NET II to transfer files between two computers.

So you are saying I could just run a cable between two computers and transfer files and I would just need a 5 1/4" disk with a program (such as U-NET II) on it to run on the 5150? I couldn't find anything on U-NET II, do you have a link? I have a Win 98 machine with a serial and parallel port and a Win 7 machine with a serial port (either can be re-located near the 5150). My modern PC only has USB. What cable would do you recommend? Will the software on the newer computer cause that computer to appear as a drive on the 5150? BTW I'm in Bayonne (next to NYC).

Sorry if these are dumb questions. I'm new to this and the search results I found aren't exactly the same situation, and therefore a bit confusing. Also please note I am new to the forum so my posts don't appear until a day or two after I submit them (to prevent spam).

MikeS
October 31st, 2014, 07:03 PM
...So you are saying I could just run a cable between two computers and transfer files and I would just need a 5 1/4" disk with a program (such as U-NET II) on it to run on the 5150?Yup. Depending on what version of DOS you're using, something like Interlink (for example) will not only let you transfer files but also run programs on the server (preferably the Win98 machine).

http://www.pcxt-micro.com/dos-interlink.html
http://www.harburg.plus.com/Link2PCs.htm
http://www.vfrazee.com/ms-dos/6.22/help/intersvr.htm


Will the software on the newer computer cause that computer to appear as a drive on the 5150Yes; the 5150 can also use a printer connected to the server, just not a CD-ROM drive.

BTW, programs like Interlink will install themselves remotely over a serial null-modem cable, i.e. you don't have to worry about how to get it onto the 5150's disk in the first place; once installed a parallel cable will make things go faster however.

And again depending on your OS you could even install a network card (or an external adapter) and use Ethernet; so many choices...

This issue has been discussed quite a bit on here; maybe you can find some relevant threads from the past. Good luck!

oblivion
October 31st, 2014, 07:13 PM
A parallel port zip drive will work but it will require a NEC v20 upgrade. Other then that all you need is a parallel port and run guest.exe

Stone
October 31st, 2014, 07:56 PM
So you are saying I could just run a cable between two computers and transfer files and I would just need a 5 1/4" disk with a program (such as U-NET II) on it to run on the 5150? I couldn't find anything on U-NET II, do you have a link? I have a Win 98 machine with a serial and parallel port and a Win 7 machine with a serial port (either can be re-located near the 5150). My modern PC only has USB. What cable would do you recommend? Will the software on the newer computer cause that computer to appear as a drive on the 5150?You need to run the program on both computers and you will have to run the WIN98 machine in DOS mode.

I can send you a link.

You need a Parallel transfer cable, aka, a LapLink cable.


Technical Requirements

* Computers must be IBM or compatibles. They can be any mix of PC, XT, 286 AT,
386, 486 or PS/2 Microchannel computers.

* The main (SERVER) computer must have a hard disk drive. The other computer
(WORKSTATION) must have at least one floppy disk drive.

* Each computer must have a standard parallel port available. If there is none
free then you may have to add a second or third parallel port.

* Any printer that you wish to share has to be connected to the SERVER's first
parallel port (LPT1).

* It is recommended that the SERVER computer have a minimum of 640Kb RAM.

* It is recommended that you use MSDOS 3.3 or later and the same version of
DOS on both computers.

* The maximum recommended cable length between the computers is 10m (30 ft).

modem7
October 31st, 2014, 08:18 PM
A parallel port zip drive will work but it will require a NEC v20 upgrade. Other then that all you need is a parallel port and run guest.exe
Although, an 8088 based ZIP drive solution is covered in the information pointed to in post #2

Caluser2000
October 31st, 2014, 08:28 PM
Maybe a direct link is required http://leute.server.de/peichl/palmzipe.htm

Teufelhunden
October 31st, 2014, 08:28 PM
Thank you all for the info! I'll post back after I try it.