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curtis
November 10th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Just finished an agonizing transaction with maxxdoo.

Auction finished on 23 Oct and paid a day later.

Waited a week, nothing.

One more week. Still nothing. Sent email asking for shipping info. No response.

2 days later. Sent another email requesting shipping info. Nada. Sent another email via Outlook requesting date/time read. Nothing!

Couple of more emails just to see if he was having a bad couple of weeks. ZIP!

Finally started a transaction dispute and got paypal involved. User finally went to the post office and mailed item on 7 Nov. Received 9 Nov.

Left neutral response because the item was good, but his handling of the transaction was pitiful.

Received retaliatory negative feedback from this guy! WTF??????????????

So, if you can, avoid this guy like the plague!!!

Curtis

p.s. Hey Erik, maybe we should have a forum for deadbeat ebay'ers since this is becoming the primary method for collectors to obtain stuff! Hopefully, I won't be in it... :cool:

Erik
November 10th, 2006, 08:35 AM
p.s. Hey Erik, maybe we should have a forum for deadbeat ebay'ers since this is becoming the primary method for collectors to obtain stuff! Hopefully, I won't be in it... :cool:

I'm not sure a dedicated forum is needed, but adding to this thread would work - for now, at least.

Anyone else know of any deadbeats?

Please only post about transactions that you were directly involved in and only post the facts. No need to get personal or to risk libel.

mbbrutman
November 10th, 2006, 04:56 PM
Let's not turn this into a rant thread. If you have somebody specific that you'd like to point out, do so in a clearly written an non-libelous paragraph. Otherwise, let's not all chip on how bad buyers/sellers on eBay can be.

Edit:

Since this thread is now sticky and it will persist, to keep it readable I'm going to prune anything that looks like ranting. Feel free to post your factual story about eBay morons, but don't editorialize too much.

VTEC_Inside
November 13th, 2006, 10:27 AM
Picked one of these up on ebay. Yes, maxxdoo FINALLY sent it after threatening action.

Anyway, installed it in my Amiga 500 and hooked up a VGA monitor. No joy.

I'm assuming I need some driver software to enable this. Yes/No?

Can someone help me out here? I don't have an Amiga hooked up to the internet, so probably the best thing would be snail mail. I'm in Burleson, Tx and would be willing to cover costs.

OS is Workbench 1.3 Motherboard rev is 6A.

Curtis

You too eh? I joined here just to share my expeience with you.

I bought mine off maxdoo on Oct 1, 2006. I had nothing as of the end of Oct.

I had to actually start the claims process on PayPal before he even shipped the thing on Nov 6, 2006.

Mine just arrived an hour ago. Now I'm gung-ho to get home and try this thing. My precious 1084s blew up two days after I hooked my A500 back up in Sept. It was either spend the money on this thing or get the monitor fixed.

It will be nice to use the A500 on a VGA monitor. I also got lucky in that a friend of mine just gave me his old PC speakers so I have sound taken care of too.

Amiga Forever!!! lol.....

curtis
December 23rd, 2006, 06:15 PM
Just ran a check to see if mr. maxxdoo was doing anything on ebay and discovered he's no longer a registered user.

Wonder if it was his idea to give it up or if he was "invited" off by ebay???

Curtis

curtis
January 15th, 2013, 03:19 PM
Here's another ebay'er that doesn't seem to have a clue.

korodithttp://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/s.gif
I don't think he's deliberately bad, but he's terribly uninformed.

Bid on an auction for an Amiga 500+. Won it and paid what was claimed was the total plus shipping. 3-4 days later he messages me saying he hasn't gotten my payment. Check paypal, seems he's listed a different email address. Cancel that payment and am about to send a new payment to the email he says is correct when I get ANOTHER email saying shipping is going to be $70 as opposed to $24 as posted on the auction.

Grumble...

Paid it.

Wait...

Wait...

Another email to him as THIS payment is ALSO unclaimed! He finally claims the payment.

Today I receive ANOTHER email from him stating shipping is now going to be $90! He does offer to refund my payment and basically cancel out the whole transaction.

All through the email swaps he's claiming he didn't have any plans of selling it internationally, but only in his country of Hungary.

With my final email agreeing to cancel the transaction, I explain to him to change his preferences AND his paypal account!

This fellow is clueless and for the immediate future, don't get involved with him!

RickNel
January 15th, 2013, 03:53 PM
I am often a "foreign" buyer or seller. Local practices can be different - eg US sellers who insist on $50+ courier delivery for a tiny, non-fragile, non-urgent item. Are they getting kickbacks? In some countries, the post office rates may be unpredictable as well, if the local clerk is in a position to demand a "premium" to accept the item and process it...

CAVEAT EMPTOR is always relevant.

Rick

Lorne
January 15th, 2013, 08:36 PM
I am often a "foreign" buyer or seller. Local practices can be different - eg US sellers who insist on $50+ courier delivery for a tiny, non-fragile, non-urgent item. Are they getting kickbacks? In some countries, the post office rates may be unpredictable as well, if the local clerk is in a position to demand a "premium" to accept the item and process it...

CAVEAT EMPTOR is always relevant.

Rick

I used to ship internationally all the time, but no more.
I 've been burned twice in the past year, with the last one being someone in the UK who purchased an item which I mailed the next day via USPS First Class Mail International Package.
The buyer contacts me after 28 days saying they haven't received it, and they want a refund.
I check with the post office, and there's no tracking for items in the UK via the way I sent it.
I refund the buyer's purchase price plus the shipping, and then three weeks later the package comes back to me with a sticker on it saying there was 11 pounds duty on it, and it was "not called for".
Essentially, the guy decided he didn't wat to pay the duty his country was going to charge, so I ended up getting screwed out of the cost of international shipping.

How can a seller protect himself when there's no record of delivery?
If you have something shipped to Australia, how can the seller prove it ever got there if there's no signature required?
And you can only get the signature with the premium services.

For me it's now only USPS Global Express Mail or UPS/FedEx for international shipping (IE: something that gets me a signature that the thing has been delivered or delivery was attempted).
One bad apple spoiled the lot.

curtis
January 30th, 2013, 05:42 AM
Ok, it's official, korodit is a thief!

After a couple of weeks and no response or refund, I've had to file a complaint on him. He hasn't responded to the complaint as of today and I'll probably have to escalate on 2 Feb.

curtis
February 6th, 2013, 03:09 PM
Well after opening cases in both ebay and paypal, then escalating to claim it appears the jerk has finally issued a refund.

However, the refund is pending getting the money from his bank account.

To quote the ever-wise Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"

Unknown_K
February 6th, 2013, 03:43 PM
Pay using a credit card (Paypal), they will just credit you and go after the seller. The only time I use cash is when I have some in my Paypal account or the item is just a few dollars.

curtis
June 6th, 2014, 01:44 PM
Got another deadbeat.

customsg

Sold him/she/it an Amiga software package for a whopping 99 cents! Never paid. Opened a case about a month ago with ebay. Of course, all they did was try to contact the loser.

Totally not worth the trouble.

vwestlife
June 6th, 2014, 04:09 PM
Got another deadbeat.

customsg

Sold him/she/it an Amiga software package for a whopping 99 cents! Never paid. Opened a case about a month ago with ebay. Of course, all they did was try to contact the loser.

Totally not worth the trouble.

If the buyer isn't responding, you can escalate the case to eBay staff, and they'll refund your listing fee and close the case.

mojorific
November 17th, 2014, 03:32 AM
The only problems i've had with ebay/paypal are as a seller. Buyer protection is quite good with paypal, but as a seller, you are truly at the mercy of the buyer. They can always say they didn't receive the item, or that it wasn't as described, and paypal will always side with them.

Sure there are some bad ebay sellers, but the vast majority of issues have to come from buyers who are trying to bilk the system in order to get goods for free or for as little as possible.

KevinO
November 18th, 2014, 04:13 PM
The only problems i've had with ebay/paypal are as a seller. Buyer protection is quite good with paypal, but as a seller, you are truly at the mercy of the buyer. They can always say they didn't receive the item, or that it wasn't as described, and paypal will always side with them.

Sure there are some bad ebay sellers, but the vast majority of issues have to come from buyers who are trying to bilk the system in order to get goods for free or for as little as possible.

I'm hearing that more and more. I've even heard one guy say that Ebay/Paypal will refund the buyer's money and the buyer is under no obligation to send the item back! I keep hoping that's not really true. As an occasional seller, that makes me really nervous!

Ole Juul
November 18th, 2014, 05:23 PM
I'm hearing that more and more. I've even heard one guy say that Ebay/Paypal will refund the buyer's money and the buyer is under no obligation to send the item back! I keep hoping that's not really true. As an occasional seller, that makes me really nervous!

I don't want to take this thread too far off track. However, I would like to say that I feel for the sellers here, but that nevertheless there is a dilemma for the buyers too. Ebay is not making this easy. I recently bought an item and it was damaged in transit so that it was only good for parts - and parts is not what I wanted. I spoke with the seller who had no immediate solution other than to file a claim of "not as described". I did that and Ebay promptly refunded all my money including shipping. Now I still have the item and don't want to spend over $60 to send it back unless the seller requests it and I have some assurance that I will be refunded the $60. This is clearly a fault in the Ebay system which puts both buyer and seller in a bind.

PeterNC
November 19th, 2014, 03:13 AM
This is why I prefer to sell through Vintage Computer Forum / AmiBay / CPU World / Talk Retro / Quest Studios and so on. Plus I always buy insurance. There is too much risk for buyer fraud on eBay.

mwillegal
November 19th, 2014, 04:58 AM
korodit probably is a thief...

check out Dave Jones anatomy of a Ebay Scam post.

http://www.eevblog.com/2014/11/11/anatomy-of-an-ebay-scam/

regards,
Mike W.

TJ_Mossman
December 2nd, 2015, 02:01 PM
delboy2706 is another one to avoid

-re-used another seller's pictures and description
-said the item was already with FedEx before the auction closed, as an excuse to not take any moe pictures (huh?)
-refused to accept PayPal despite it being an option on the listing (it's mandatory on ebay UK)
-sent a phishing email to my paypal address asking for a bank transfer (using the address: "ebay@ebay.co.uk <euro-trans-ltd@consultant.com>")

SGTSQUID
September 20th, 2017, 06:02 PM
I wouldn't normally bother posting information about a buyer here, but this kid , micwal.vx2bql, deserves it. He won my auction for an IBM PC, then sent this message the next day:

Sir/Madam,

I was really astonished by the condition of the 5150 and I'm really excited that I won! I will be going to the bank in the morning to deposit the money and complete the transaction; my apologies about the wait. I normally do my best to pay the day-of, but like all things sometimes things go a muck. Please don't send the item until I pay for it; I don't want this to seem like I'm asking you to do that. I just wanted to explain so that you didn't get antsy about it not being paid for yet. I expect things to go smoothly and hope in the future I don't have to send such a message to you or anyone else again. If you find that you don't want to wait it is perfectly reasonable for you to make a claim to eBay and relist the item. I accept all responsibility for this and it is your right to not have to wait for me.

Thank you, and again my deepest apologies about the delay,


Michael

I waited a few days before asking about the payment, and he didn't even bother to respond. I sent 2 more messages, both polite, asking if there was a problem or if he tried to send payment. No response, but I did notice from his feedback that he had bought something else on ebay after winning my auction and promising payment, so he is still active. In case he decides to use another ebay account or shows up here on this forum, his name is Michael Wallin and he is apparently a student at University of Wisconsin, Plattsville, since his shipping address is to one of the student dorms.

mR_Slug
September 20th, 2017, 06:43 PM
...If you find that you don't want to wait it is perfectly reasonable for you to make a claim to eBay and relist the item. I accept all responsibility for this and it is your right to not have to wait for me.

If he had just said "I've got to put money into PayPal, Please give me a day or 2" I'd believe him. It looks like he's hoping you will relist. I do wish people would just say they don't want the item. The eBay process can take ages for non paying bidders.

SGTSQUID
September 20th, 2017, 08:42 PM
I wouldn't have been as upset if he had just been honest. I once had a guy bid a generic 386 I was selling up to nearly $600, and then immediately sent me a message saying that he got carried away and did not have that kind of money. His feedback count was 4 or 5, and he was new to ebay. Since he was honest with me and helped get the deal cancelled so I could sell it on a second chance offer right away, you won't see his name here. He admitted he goofed and took responsibility. This kid I'm dealing with now has no sense of responsibility and can not be trusted.

kgober
September 21st, 2017, 04:39 AM
he may still be trying to scrape together the money (college student, probably new to managing their own money) and is embarrassed to contact you again until he has. eBay does go out of its way to inform buyers that bids are binding contracts and cannot be backed out of, so this kid may not realize that adults can choose to make their own rules regardless of what eBay says.

or maybe he's a flake. it's often hard to know.

PeterNC
September 21st, 2017, 06:02 AM
I never have patience for people that do not pay right away. No matter what their story may or may not be.

SGTSQUID
September 21st, 2017, 07:14 AM
he may still be trying to scrape together the money (college student, probably new to managing their own money) and is embarrassed to contact you again until he has. eBay does go out of its way to inform buyers that bids are binding contracts and cannot be backed out of, so this kid may not realize that adults can choose to make their own rules regardless of what eBay says.

or maybe he's a flake. it's often hard to know.

No, he said he was going to deposit the money the next morning. Either way he's a liar.

Chuck(G)
September 21st, 2017, 07:26 AM
Ebay sellers should have received a notice of a change in policy by now. Essentially, eBay will collect a fee on any item that's listed on their site and is offered for sale on other sites, even if the item doesn't sell.

That ought to raise some hackles. I wonder what the folks who sell through both Amazon and eBay will do? I'll confess to finding something on eBay that I want and then checking Amazon for the same thing at a better price, offered by the same seller. It happens often.

SGTSQUID
September 21st, 2017, 09:19 AM
Ebay sellers should have received a notice of a change in policy by now. Essentially, eBay will collect a fee on any item that's listed on their site and is offered for sale on other sites, even if the item doesn't sell.

That ought to raise some hackles. I wonder what the folks who sell through both Amazon and eBay will do? I'll confess to finding something on eBay that I want and then checking Amazon for the same thing at a better price, offered by the same seller. It happens often.

I read the new policy, and that only applies to items where the deal was mad through ebay and the actual sale happens off of ebay to avoid fees. For example, you get a an offer for an item, accept by message without actually "accepting" the offer, make the deal off of ebay and then cancel the order to avoid fees. The new policy specifically allows items to be offered elsewhere and auctions to be ended early to sell in another venue. They have too many sellers using them and Amazon to risk a mass exodus. They also filter all messages, so I assume that is what they would use to catch people.

Alkenstof
February 28th, 2018, 03:53 PM
Just finished an agonizing transaction with maxxdoo.

Auction finished on 23 Oct and paid a day later.

Waited a week, nothing.

One more week. Still nothing. Sent email asking for shipping info. No response.

2 days later. Sent another email requesting shipping info. Nada. Sent another email via Outlook requesting date/time read. Nothing!

Couple of more emails just to see if he was having a bad couple of weeks. ZIP!

Finally started a transaction dispute and got paypal involved. User finally went to the post office and mailed item on 7 Nov. Received 9 Nov.

Left neutral response because the item was good, but his handling of the transaction was pitiful.

Received retaliatory negative feedback from this guy! WTF??????????????

So, if you can, avoid this guy like the plague!!!

Curtis

p.s. Hey Erik, maybe we should have a forum for deadbeat ebay'ers since this is becoming the primary method for collectors to obtain stuff! Hopefully, I won't be in it... :cool:

this user doesn't even exist. also this was over a decade ago...