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Terry Yager
December 1st, 2006, 04:31 PM
Why on Earth would someone want to play a game based on a boat that got sunk?

http://cgi.ebay.com/PT-109-John-F-Kennedy-Computer-Video-Game-Vintage_W0QQitemZ320051911488QQihZ011QQcategoryZ12 47QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is the object of the game to lose, or what?

--T

Terry Yager
December 1st, 2006, 04:51 PM
Hmmmn...mebbe I should invent a game called the USS Indianapolis, where the object is to deliver A-Bombs to an island airbase, only to get sunk on the return trip before the war-ending blasts occur, and spend six days floating around in shark-infested waters because nobody noticed that such an important ship was missing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Indianapolis_(CA-35)

--T

IBMMuseum
December 1st, 2006, 07:52 PM
Why on Earth would someone want to play a game based on a boat that got sunk?

I couldn't play "Minesweeper" until a few years ago: http://www.gilanet.com/David/GulfPics

I also joke with people not to tell me about the movie Titanic until I had a chance to see it (still haven't, so don't ruin it for me)...

atari2600a
December 1st, 2006, 07:59 PM
Okay, but it has NOTHING to do with a certain ship sinking!:p

I always think things would make a great video game, until I realize that whatever it was based off of failed...

(BTW, I'm the best MineSweeper player I know! lol)

Edlin
December 1st, 2006, 08:18 PM
Code-Name Ice Man?

I was addicted to that till I finished it.

Terry Yager
December 1st, 2006, 08:29 PM
Of course, JFK did get promoted all the way up to CommanderInChief, even after losing his boat, a sure-fired carreer-killer for most Naval officerz. (The skipper of the Indy ended-up becoming the only skipper in America's history to be successfully court-marshaled & punished for losing his ship).

--T

Terry Yager
December 1st, 2006, 08:34 PM
I couldn't play "Minesweeper" until a few years ago: http://www.gilanet.com/David/GulfPics

I also joke with people not to tell me about the movie Titanic until I had a chance to see it (still haven't, so don't ruin it for me)...

Caution: Movie spoiler ahead...

Hate to disillusion ya IBM, but in the end, the damn boat still sinks!.

--T

carlsson
December 2nd, 2006, 06:21 AM
For that matter, why would anyone want to play a war simulation game based on a real war where hundred of thousands, if not more, people died? Both soldiers and civilians. All since the 80'ties, there has been a steady stream of reality based war games which sell reasonably well.

bbcmicro
December 2nd, 2006, 07:35 AM
Beh, I couldn't stand those games.

They all seem to be about the Second World War, plus, from my uninformed view (Please correct me if I'm wrong), I hardly see any from the British POV. Or French, German, Italian or Russian or Japanese and all other parcipitants of WW2 for that matter but I guess the market is much smaller for non english games (Excepting maybe japanese)
.

The only one I can remember really enjoying (And incidentally, you could be British or German :)) was Red Baron. I oughta d/l it sometime.

carlsson
December 2nd, 2006, 11:38 AM
In many of SSI's numerous war simulations, it lets you choose which side to play. Some games were contemporary as well, like Falklands '82 although that one might be a poor example of a playable war game. But back to Terry's question, a game based on a sunk submarine (?) was probably made from a war gaming point of view, not only because it sunk.

For that matter, in the 1999 C64 crap games contest, there was a game based on Titanic. Using a fixed game map, after a while it is impossible to avoid hitting the ice berg, and it is game over. :)

Terry Yager
December 2nd, 2006, 01:24 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but I'm not much of a war gamer. In games that allow the user to choose the losing side, do they allow you to change the outcome, i.e., let Hitler conquer the world, etc?

--T

carlsson
December 2nd, 2006, 03:22 PM
Whether you win or lose the game depends on how you play it, I believe. That is, in a WW2 game the allies don't automagically beat back the Nazi troops. If it worked that way, it would be more a demonstration than a game.

In more contemporary games, the choice was NATO or Soviet Union (or Warsaw Pact). Sometimes you could choose China as the third choice. Some games take place in the 18th century, and there the choice is France (Napoleon) or allies. In a game about the US Civil War, you can of course select North or South. Some war games don't politicize, and instead speak about Blue or Red teams.

carlsson
December 2nd, 2006, 03:27 PM
By the way, it was years ago I played the board game Axis & Allies. Is it for six players? USA, UK, Germany, Russia, China and Japan? Or is China just "dead" area for Japan or Russia to invade?

Of course, if we speak about board games, nobody can ignore Diplomacy, the game of love and hate. It was also many years ago.

Terry Yager
December 2nd, 2006, 04:09 PM
Yeah, that makes more sense...the ol' 'what if' scenario. What if Patton had turned north instead of south, etc.

--T

IBMMuseum
December 2nd, 2006, 08:48 PM
This one was going around a little while back:
(http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_20057151.asp)

If World War Two had been an online Real Time Strategy game, the chat room traffic would have gone something like this.

*Hitler[AoE] has joined the game.*
*Eisenhower has joined the game.*
*paTTon has joined the game.*
*Churchill has joined the game.*
*benny-tow has joined the game.*
*T0J0 has joined the game.*
*Roosevelt has joined the game.*
*Stalin has joined the game.*
*deGaulle has joined the game.*
Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help
Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
Roosevelt: get antiair guns
Churchill: i cant afford them
benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
paTTon: stfu
Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker
Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is gay
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
T0J0: holy ****holy****hoyl****!
*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
*benny~tow has left the game.*
Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
*paTTon has left the game.*

bbcmicro
December 3rd, 2006, 02:42 AM
LMAO!! :D

Very clever.

apple2fan
December 3rd, 2006, 06:20 AM
paTTon: o sh1t!

Well there you go! (:

Edlin
December 3rd, 2006, 08:37 AM
I like it!