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dosfan95
February 13th, 2017, 07:03 PM
Hi everyone, I've been incredibly busy as of late due to life and other things and have only just been returning to these forums as my load has lightened up a little bit. I've gotten quite a lot of vintage computer related goods and just recently got some IBM PC (5150 era) stuff from an older friend who didn't want to toss the stuff in the trash and I could use some advice about it.

This included 5 cards which look like IBM stuff. I'm not entirely sure on that, as my expertise in this era is extremely low. I'm pretty sure there's a ram expansion card and a (n EGA?) graphics card in there. I've attached an album with photos of them all since my phone takes large photos that don't embed well at all: http://imgur.com/a/ENn2N

I also got a big lot of IBM software (~80 disks in plastic containers of 10) and was wondering if any of it is rare/uncommon software or if it's mostly run of the mill stuff. I listed them in a pastebin here: http://pastebin.com/fWutiZCq

Here's the problem. I haven't got a PC with a 5.25 inch drive. My only actual PC is a 2015 laptop and none of my other working computers are PC compatible (C64, TRS IV, Mac SE.) So, I can't archive these disks. I haven't got an actual IBM either, so the cards aren't that useful either. Basically, I am not quite sure what to do with these. Getting an IBM is one option, but shipping is ridiculous across the states and I haven't really got the money or space for it unless I trade away from extra stuff I have. I still want to preserve the disks if possible, but I've yet to find a 5.25" to usb solution for modern computers. I can't really test the cards and I'm unwilling to trash them either, since I don't know much about them at all. Essentially, I'm just looking for some information before I decide what to do with the lot of saved stuff. Can anyone help me out?

modem7
February 13th, 2017, 10:36 PM
This included 5 cards which look like IBM stuff. I'm not entirely sure on that, as my expertise in this era is extremely low. I'm pretty sure there's a ram expansion card and a (n EGA?) graphics card in there. I've attached an album with photos of them all since my phone takes large photos that don't embed well at all: http://imgur.com/a/ENn2N
Card #1: SixPak Premium (labelled as such), made by AST. User's manual at [here (http://minuszerodegrees.net/manuals.htm#AST)]. The manual describes the card's functionalities.

Cards #2 and #3: The two identical cards are IBM 'Monochrome Display and Printer Adapter' cards. Two functionalities: MDA video + printer port. Some detail at [here (http://minuszerodegrees.net/5150_5160/cards/5150_5160_cards.htm#mda)].

Card #4: TurboEGA (labelled as such), made by Orchid Technology. Two functionalities: EGA video + CPU upgrade. Described in the 10 NOV 1986 edition of InfoWorld magazine (available online).

Card #5: In a Texas Instruments document found online, the part number 2240924 appears as "2240924 Winchester Disk Controller Board".

DDS
February 14th, 2017, 03:53 AM
Is there a web site that says how many "bog lots" are in a "crap ton"?

;-)

SomeGuy
February 14th, 2017, 04:23 AM
Here's the problem. I haven't got a PC with a 5.25 inch drive. My only actual PC is a 2015 laptop and none of my other working computers are PC compatible (C64, TRS IV, Mac SE.) So, I can't archive these disks. I haven't got an actual IBM either, so the cards aren't that useful either. Basically, I am not quite sure what to do with these. Getting an IBM is one option, but shipping is ridiculous across the states and I haven't really got the money or space for it unless I trade away from extra stuff I have. I still want to preserve the disks if possible, but I've yet to find a 5.25" to usb solution for modern computers.?

The standard way to archive floppy disks on lobotomized "modern" computers is the Kryoflux (http://webstore.kryoflux.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=29)and alternatively the similar SuperCard Pro (http://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=scp)

The advantage is those can archive any disk format your drive can physically handle (including 5.25" C64, TRS-80, and 3.5" low density Macintosh disks), and they can successfully archive most copy protected titles. The downside is both are harder to use than just dragging and dropping files from a floppy - you must read and write images all at once, sort of like working with CD-ROM ISO images.

If you feel the expense for one of these is too much for a one-time thing you may be able to send the disks to someone else locally that does have one of these.

Stone
February 14th, 2017, 05:44 AM
What you need is a friend with a PC/5" drive.

dosfan95
February 14th, 2017, 06:18 AM
Wow, thanks for the quick replies and help, everyone!

It appears auto correct interpreted big as big in my title, but perhaps bog is more accurate but I was quite stuck on it.

Modem7, thanks for compiling those links for me. The turboEGA card is missing what looks like a 40 pin chip and the 6pak premium is missing a few but it's great to get an idea of what these cards were designed to do.

Someguy, the links and information you sent are very helpful. Those cards look to be exactly what I need. My funds are highly limited as a student so I doubt I'll be able to get one though. I have got a friend with an old beige PC, perhaps I could talk him into seeing if it runs. If so, I'll try to get a 5.25" drive in it and archive the disks to 3.5 disks which I've got a USB drive for.

Now, after doing more research of my own, I'm tempted to actually grab a 5150 or an XT. I've always like the look and have wanted to get programming on one, but finding one locally would be difficult. I wouldn't want to risk shipping one with the monitor I'd need. Maybe I'll make an items wanted thread, I've got a TRS-80 IV in nice condition that I'd probably be willing to trade for one. It'd certainly give me some incentive to get these cards fixed and I've got lots of software to play around with. In lieu of turning this into a sales thread, I'll stop that discussion for now, at least here.

Again, thanks much for all your help. Now to start organizing these floppies and finding out if any of this software is not already on the internet!