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oldelectrons
September 13th, 2007, 06:44 PM
I am dropping this in as many places as I can think of to see if someone
can help. I have an old pentium pc that I need to work with. It has the
AMI 2000 Enabler card to handle the y2k problem. This machine has the
Award 4.50G bios and requires a software patch to use the Enabler
card. The patch, called y2000.com, has been erased. The links in the
manual that came with the card are all dead after seven years. I have
contacted ami's tech support, with no results so far. Ditto with web
searches. Do you have any suggestions for finding this patch? Thanks in
advance for your help.

IBMMuseum
September 13th, 2007, 08:09 PM
Uhhmm, we're in 2007 already, so what happens if you just pull the card and set the date manually? Normally the biggest Y2K issue was the *transistion through* the change. In just about every system I have that predated 2000, once the Real Time Clock was set correctly they handled everything else just fine.

Druid6900
September 13th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Yup, I have to agree.

I just told my clients to turn off their computers when they left for Christmas holidays, turn it back on in January and set the date.

Never heard any negative feedback, but, I sure did get a lot of late Christmas presents that year.

That whole Y2K things was a tempest in a teapot that made SOME consultants a WHOLE lot of money.

chuckcmagee
September 13th, 2007, 09:43 PM
Yes, I didn't feel like moving to New York at the time but with my COBOL experience, I could have made big bucks. Probably would have gotten run over by a cab.

Sharkonwheels
September 13th, 2007, 10:02 PM
Yup, I have to agree.

I just told my clients to turn off their computers when they left for Christmas holidays, turn it back on in January and set the date.

Never heard any negative feedback, but, I sure did get a lot of late Christmas presents that year.

That whole Y2K things was a tempest in a teapot that made SOME consultants a WHOLE lot of money.

SOME consultants? Are you kidding?
That was a bona-fide multi-BILLION dollar subindustry to itself!

I was at Royal Caribbean when we drifted through Y2K, and they easily tossed a few mil. Between the networking gear, the PC's, the WinTel servers, the satellite gear, the AS/400's and JD Edwards software (prob near a mil itself) it was a total nightmare.

Of course, nothing happened.

We had a ship in Australia that was first to go through, and, nothing happened.

We had a "Y2K Crisis Center" set up from like 12/28 - 1/3 and...
nothing happened...

We sent extra personnel to the ships and...
nothing happened.

We had the alternate "Hot Site" (used after disasters at HQ) manned and equipped, ready to take over and...
nothing happened.

That was the SINGLE BIGGEST RIPOFF in the history of computing.

Well - before Sarbanes-Oxley came around....SOX takes the freaking cake!
We've had auditors and such on site for like 3 years now!!!!!

Thanks ENRON! THANKS, WORLDCOM! We appreciate you morons tripling our workload!


Sarbanes-Oxley Restroom Usage Procedure:
Now, when you take a whizz, you gotta submit a request, to 2 people. Those 2 people have to get counter-approvals for checks-and-balances. Then someone has to escort you to the bathroom, except he has a backup escort WITH him. When you get in the bathroom, there's a person in there with a sign-in sheet, and he signs you in. But, you have to use the special $450 pen, that only does 5 signatures. Now, when you sign in at the bathroom door, they have to fax your signature to HR, to make sure it's actually you taking a whizz, and not someone impersonating you.

Now, when HR gets the request, they have to get counter-confirmation from 2 VP's, and your department head, so they are all aware you are taking a whizz.

When you get to the stall, Stall Security has to unlock the door for you, but the supervisor has to come down, because it's double locked, and simultaneous 2-lock unlocking is REQUIRED. Don't forget your $25/sheet SOX-compliant toilet paper the restroom engineer provides you, after you sign for it, and the restroom supervisor counter-signs, acknowledging you received afore-mentioned toilet paper.

When you are done, Stall Security has to call the restroom supervisor, because they need to double-unlock again to let you out - it MUST be secure, and free from liberal access! Security is the word!

When you wash your hands, the plumbing engineer unlocks the faucer, after getting approval from the building engineer, and also from the waste management engineer. Remember, they have forms to fill out as well. Now the restroom engineer has to put in a requisition for paper towels so you can dry your hands, and those require approval from VP of HR, VP of Facilities Management, and VP of Purchasing. Once approval is secure, you are given paper towels to dry your hands, but now we need the waste engineer to unlock the trash receptacle so you can throw away the paper towels. When the waster engineer arrives, he must inspect the paper towels to make sure they were the ones you were issues, and he inspects to make sure there is no contaminating matter in afore-mentioned paper towels. After inspection, the waste engineer unlocks the trash receptacle, which is double-locked also with the restroom engineers key, and disposes of the paper towels.

Now that you have finished, the escort walks you out of the bathroom, but first he must unlock the double-locked door with the restroom engineer, and he must also request clearance from facilities management for you to exit the restroom, and enter the hallway.

You have now completed a Sarbanes-Oxley (SOX) compliant bathroom excursion.

have a nice day - WAIT! You forgot to sign out - No...can't leave yet. We need to fax your signout sheet to HR to make sure that you exiting, is the same you that entered.


<hehehe>


Tony


Tony

carlsson
September 14th, 2007, 12:00 AM
We need to fax your signout sheet to HR to make sure that you exiting, is the same you that entered.
But is it, from a philosophical point of view? After doing your business in the bathroom, only a subset of you remain.

Back to the original poster, it sounds like his Pentium (ooh, this whole thread smells off-topic) is not able to handle dates after 1999-12-31 on its own, but needs an extra card to help it. A card that he lacks the software for. It sounds a bit odd, in particular as I would've believed all systems and BIOS versions developed for the Pentium range (mid to late 1990's) already supported 32-bit date stamps from 1980-2030 or so. Perhaps there is a newer or different BIOS version that can be installed to overcome the need of an expansion card?

Druid6900
September 14th, 2007, 08:36 AM
Tony; Piss over the side.

Carlsson; that's the point, he doesn't realy need the software because he doesn't really need the card.

Pull the card and toss it, set the date and go upon your merry way, my son.

Sharkonwheels
September 14th, 2007, 08:52 AM
Learn from the Masters, young grasshopper


T

Vlad
September 14th, 2007, 10:03 AM
December 1999 I set my computer to moments before Y2K was suppose to make my computer blow up and I die a horrible flaming death or what ever and watched it tick over. At the time is was a Win 95 box that did nothing but tick over to January 1st 2000. Looking back at it, it was genius how they used fear tactics to pull off a multi billion dollar money grab nearly over night.

Druid6900
September 14th, 2007, 08:33 PM
Yeah, well, I never was able to screw my clients over like that, which probably explains why I'm poor LOL

nige the hippy
September 15th, 2007, 01:24 AM
I really wouldn't toss the card, it might be useful next millenium.

It's also a nice reminder of a huge uncertainty.
My Thorn-EMI liberator thinks it's currently 1907

It was a similar unknown to an aircraft autopilot system, that got nearly all the way into production, before someone decided to fly across the equator and promptly turned upside down.:lookroun:

chuckcmagee
September 15th, 2007, 02:02 AM
In cases like 1907, I pick a year where the day of the week is the same. Like 9-15-1990 is the same as today (Sat).

dongfeng
September 15th, 2007, 02:23 AM
The QuadRam card in my 5150 can't support anything later than 2000. I just set it to 1987 instead :)

Yzzerdd
September 15th, 2007, 06:46 AM
In cases like 1907, I pick a year where the day of the week is the same. Like 9-15-1990 is the same as today (Sat).

I do the same with my AT&T 6300. It don't understand it is 2007(AT&T thought by 12-31-1990 everyone would have upgraded! The guy I got mine off of used it till '98!) So I tell it it is 1990, and remember 1990 means whatever the current year is. I have the driver to fix that madness, it is on my new machine. I haven't got around to installing a 720K into my AT&T yet. Once I do that, I can transfer the fix. I think Ahm gave me that one, and it is downloadable.....Here (http://ahm.ath.cx/tmp/pc6300clockfix.zip).
Its a "zip" file, just for the warning. Mebbe this weekend I will get around to it, let ya know how it goes...

--Ryan

oldelectrons
September 15th, 2007, 06:12 PM
I guess I didn't make my first post clear. The y2000.com program I lost and am searching for was the link between the enabler 2000 card and the worst bios for y2k correction I have heard of. This bios (which is incidentally a ROM chip) will tell me it is 9-15-2094 if I power it up today, and windows will say it is 9-15-2000. The program was designed to correct the date which even the card couldn't fix. Sure, I can reset the date in windows every time, but that's kind of the definition of a kludge, isn't it? Besides, the old rule is if you have to do it many times, automate it. I'm just trying to get it back to where it was before I had a bit of brain fade. So I repeat, can anybody help? Thanks.