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    Hello all!

    I have just added a 5.25" 360K floppy drive to my modern PC (AMD Athlon 64) in order to easily move files to my IBM 3270PC. The drive is recognized by the BIOS OK, and I can even boot up DOS 3.2(!) using the drive. The weird thing is that the activity light never comes on. The LED itself is OK, because I did have the cable attached the wrong way at first and it was on all the time. The cable I am using now is keyed, so I'm positive it's all connected correctly.

    The biggest problem is that when I'm in Windows XP, I cannot read any disk that I put in the drive. I get the following error:

    "A:\ is not accessible."
    "The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error."

    It is a Panasonic JU 455 5 AAB drive and I've tried moving some of the jumpers around on it, to no avail.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

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    windows xp is not capable of reading 360 KB drives/disks. it wasn't designed too. understandable considering how old they are, but i find it annoying because i don't really think it would have taken much effort at all to support them by microsoft.

    you will have to either use an older version of windows, or do what i do - use winimage to work with them. it is incredibly annoying. first you will have to have winimage read the whole disk, then you can modify the files on it... THEN you have to write the new disk contents.
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    OK, thanks. XP has no problems reading my 720K disks, so I just assumed it would read 360s too. Does Windows 2000 read 360K disks?

    Anyone have any suggestions about the activity LED not lighting up when the drive is connected properly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Chambers View Post
    windows xp is not capable of reading 360 KB drives/disks. it wasn't designed too. understandable considering how old they are, but i find it annoying because i don't really think it would have taken much effort at all to support them by microsoft.
    According to Microsoft they are
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q309623

    I have found getting older floppy drives working in new systems hit or miss. I sometime try a couple till I find one that works. Just because one works on one comp does not mean it will work on another.

    This thread his some info
    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...t=12191&page=2

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashbourn View Post
    According to Microsoft they are
    http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q309623

    I have found getting older floppy drives working in new systems hit or miss. I sometime try a couple till I find one that works. Just because one works on one comp does not mean it will work on another.

    This thread his some info
    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...t=12191&page=2

    Joe
    interesting, i didn't know that. i'd heard multiple times it didn't. yeah i guess it must just be picky about the drives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asoces View Post
    Hello all!

    I have just added a 5.25" 360K floppy drive to my modern PC (AMD Athlon 64) in order to easily move files to my IBM 3270PC. The drive is recognized by the BIOS OK, and I can even boot up DOS 3.2(!) using the drive. The weird thing is that the activity light never comes on. The LED itself is OK, because I did have the cable attached the wrong way at first and it was on all the time. The cable I am using now is keyed, so I'm positive it's all connected correctly.

    The biggest problem is that when I'm in Windows XP, I cannot read any disk that I put in the drive. I get the following error:

    "A:\ is not accessible."
    "The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error."

    It is a Panasonic JU 455 5 AAB drive and I've tried moving some of the jumpers around on it, to no avail.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!
    i'm sure you did this, but just in case... did you change the floppy type in the BIOS and specify that it's a 360 KB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Chambers View Post
    windows xp is not capable of reading 360 KB drives/disks. it wasn't designed too. understandable considering how old they are, but i find it annoying because i don't really think it would have taken much effort at all to support them by microsoft.

    you will have to either use an older version of windows, or do what i do - use winimage to work with them. it is incredibly annoying. first you will have to have winimage read the whole disk, then you can modify the files on it... THEN you have to write the new disk contents.
    There is also another option:

    If you can boot from the floppy, boot in DOS (any version that support 3.5" drives), copy the contnent of the 360KB disks over to 3.5" disks, and then you can read the files in Windows XP (from the 3.5" floppy).

    If it is nessecery to work with a hard drive (from DOS), make a FAT partion using windows XP's disk utility (however, be carefull if you do)

    *Edit*
    Talking from my own experience: Never move around jumpers unless absolute neccesery. The FDD controller configures the speed/datarates automaticly. If you got a 1.2 HD drive, set it up as a 1.2 HD drive in the BIOS.
    Last edited by per; September 15th, 2008 at 12:54 AM.

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    Thanks for all the suggestions and info.

    Yes, the drive type is set correctly in the BIOS.

    Unfortunately, my 3.5" drive is a USB drive, so copying to it in DOS isn't going to work. My motherboard only supports one floppy directly.

    I think someone had previously changed some jumpers around because it wasn't working for me at all initially. It was set to DS (drive select) and 02, but changing it to DS 01 didn't help. I had to switch it from DS to MX. I tried changing another jumper from DA to UA to see if the LED activity light would come on, but that didn't seem to do anything.

    If it's more likely that Windows XP will work with a 3.5" drive, then I wonder if I could hook my 3.5" directly to the motherboard (it is a full-size drive connected to a USB controller board), and hook my 5.25" drive to the USB controller board (using a power supply line for power).

    Hmmmm... I'll let you know if that works.
    Last edited by asoces; September 15th, 2008 at 03:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Chambers View Post
    windows xp is not capable of reading 360 KB drives/disks. it wasn't designed too. understandable considering how old they are, but i find it annoying because i don't really think it would have taken much effort at all to support them by microsoft.
    Windows XP reads 360K disks just fine (using 1.2 MB drive over here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixter View Post
    Windows XP reads 360K disks just fine (using 1.2 MB drive over here).
    Which service pack of windows XP do you have installed (1, 2 or 3)? IDK if that has anything to say, but maybe. Some stuff is more incompatible with service pack 3 than with service pack 1 (like "Robot Arena 2")...

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