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    Hi all,

    I have recently gotten hold of a T1000 XE XT laptop. I have problems with booting, I suspect that the hard drive was formated. I should be able too boot off the Fdd. However pluging in the Fdd brings no joy. I have a working DOS disk, but I get no access light. I'm not sure if it's the floppy drive of the hardware in the Laptop. Unfautunately, the Fdd is a custom Toshiba job. Does anyone know if it's possible to wire up a "standard" Fdd with a converter. I want to be able to check if it's the computer or the Fdd thats at fault here. Likewise if anyone knows of any coman falts with these machines regards the Fdd I would apreciate it.

    Thanks all


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    Have you taken a look at the harddrive? Is yours the model that has the hdd in a little box that comes out? Check the cables and make sure everything is contacting right. I can't comment on the fdd, I never had one with mine. I can only suggest trying to find a different fdd.

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    Yes, Thats the one, It comes out in a nice little box, It seems to be connected correctly... Hdd seeks and makes some "good" grinding noises like it is trying to do SOMETHING..... In any case if I can test the Fdd or make sure the floppy bootup hardware and software are working that would be nice...


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    Do you have a T1000 handy to swap out the floppy drive ? I think the external one on the XE and the internal one on the 1000 are the same.

    If, because it's so obvious, but not obvious, you're already aware of it, forgive me, but is your boot floppy formatted to 720 k ? The 1000 series didn't do 1.44 floppies.

    If it's 720k, pull it apart and see if it's a belt-driven 3.5, if yes, replace the belt.

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    There is something they didn't mention in the manual... 720k?? I'll have to format a 720k disk and try again. I'm not sure it will make much diferance as I'm not getting an access light, but at lest when I get things sorted I'll then be able to read it... Can you format a 720k disk from windows?? never tried such a thing before.. might be time to fire up one of my vintage systems again and just do it from there...

    As for belt drivern?? I glad to say the belt seems to be in goodcondition, and still attatched as it seems it should be... Which is good, because I would hate to have to try and replace it, looks like the only easy way to do that wold be to pull the whole Fdd apart...


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    I dunno if you can do it directly from win or not. I usually just drop out to a DOS prompt and format using the /f:720 parameter.

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    XP won't format a 720k disk. Older versions should be able to.
    Put some opaque tape over the media sense hole on the floppy (this is the one across from the write-protect hole)
    You probably want to do this on a vintage machine, since I'm not sure T1000's will boot with a WIn95/98 style boot disk.

    Depending on your version of DOS,
    try
    format a: /f:720 /s

    which is format floppy in a, format to 720k, transfer system.

    If you have a 1.44 floppy, and don't tape the media sense hole, depending on your bios, you might get a 'track 0 bad, media unusable' error, which is why you tape the hole. Unless, of course, you've still got 720k disks laying around.

    What happens if you just let it finish it's boot attempt ? Do you get any error messages ?

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    I'm trying think how long it is since I had to type that... I was going to look up some old DOS books as a refresher, but now you have saved me the hassle... I might get out some of the older DOS machines anyway, might be fun to have a bit of a play again and check too see that they are still functional...

    Now that I think about it I have a T1600 buried deep in the bowels of the storage shed thats suposed to be fully functional... Maybe its about time I dug that out and blew the dust off so to speak... If memory serves me correctly it has an interenal 1.44 Fdd... should be a snap to get a disk formatted from that...

    As for whats happens when I try to boot the machine... It performs the RAM test, you can hear the Hdd trying to do something, then it just stops... No error mesage comes up... I fget a Hdd access light come up, but no Access light on the Fdd... Which hopefully means the Fdd is haveing some trouble and not the machine... However I dont have a second drive to test it with of course....


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    It sounds like the IDE bus is being locked by the HD.
    If you're not scared of of opening her up, open up, disconnect HD interface cable, and try again. See if you get some sort of error message, or even better, if she then tries to boot from the floppy.

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    Nope. The Hdd contector is soldered directly to the mother board. Removing the HDD doesn't help either, the computer wont start at all.... It must have an internal wiring check to make sure there is a Hdd contected.... Any other ideas???


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