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    Hi,

    I understand that Transcend CF card might be a problem... Time to get another one ! I flashed the EPROM with he latest version, but that's not better.

    For your problem with putting the OS you want on your card, you can try this : http://theinstructionlimit.com/insta...to-ide-adapter

    It worked very well on my side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modernclassic View Post
    Thanks - I did get the Cisco card to work under DOS 3.2 (just a single 32MB partition, but enough to tell me everything's kosher) after a lot of trial and error on the PC itself. It detected something like 963 cylinders on the card but saw only 0-127 as usable (expected given the DOS version), but the thing I didn't realize is that it would only work if I selected the partition to start from cylinder 1, not 0 or anything else. I had tried a partition from cylinders 100-127 earlier, but that didn't work any better than 0-127 did. But 1-127 works fine.
    You shouldn't be specifying exact cylinders with DOS FDISK; it's supposed to "just work". If you weren't partitioning it with DOS FDISK, I'd scrap what you did and try to do it again with pure DOS.

    I still need to get DOS 5.0 on this machine somehow (only physical versions that'll work are expensive on Ebay right now)
    Do you lack the ability to download disk images and write them to 360K disks reliably? These days, there's no need to purchase DOS just to get a system up and running... If you lack the ability, send me a PM.

    The Transcend card seems to not work at all. The XT-IDE doesn't detect it.
    Just curious, you may want to check the card to see if it's actually dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixter View Post
    You shouldn't be specifying exact cylinders with DOS FDISK; it's supposed to "just work". If you weren't partitioning it with DOS FDISK, I'd scrap what you did and try to do it again with pure DOS.
    DOS 3.2 makes you specify cylinders. This was changed in 3.3 from what I can tell. I've only got up to 3.2 on physical media that I can use with my PC; I've tried 3.3 and up in a VM and fdisk is different in the later versions.

    Do you lack the ability to download disk images and write them to 360K disks reliably? These days, there's no need to purchase DOS just to get a system up and running... If you lack the ability, send me a PM.
    I think I can write 360k disks now that I have the card partitioned and working with a single 32MB partition. That's more than the actual 20MB hard drive that was in there before...

    I just need to find some working blank disks. I have a bunch of old disks for my Apple II that I can probably repurpose, it's just that about 50% of them are faulty. So I need to go through them and make sure I pick out 5 good ones.

    Just curious, you may want to check the card to see if it's actually dead.
    The Transcend card isn't dead, just not recognized by the XT-IDE. I guess it may be something to do with the old BIOS that the XT-IDE's are shipping with right now. I'll try updating that and see if the Transcend card works then. I'm not 100% clear on how to do that yet either, which is why I haven't already done it. I understand there's supposed to be a configuration/update file that comes with the card, but mine didn't seem to come with it. I guess I just need to download it from somewhere and run it? I can't find any built-in function in the 1.1.5 BIOS that lets me update it, unless I'm just missing it.

    The Cisco card is working fine now, though, if I didn't make that clear before. It's just only working with 32MB out of its 256MB, because of DOS 3.2. But for now that's ok. As long as I know the card works, I can get everything else updated and working properly eventually.

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    I updated with the latest BIOS, and there is no change.

    I bought "whatever CF Card I could find" yesterday for a test... and I ended up with a 32Gb Sandisk. The results of my tests are even worse thant with the 256 Mb Transcend.

    Anyway I've bought a small Sandisk CF to make further tests. I fear that clones BIOS do accept more or less those expansion cards !



    BTW, it's very hard to have a conversation, as every post I write has to be moderated during half a day before it appears on line !

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    The XT-IDE not detecting the CF card is more likely to be the CF adapter. Given the other issues you're having, you may have a defective CF adapter. Of the handful of XT-IDEs that have come back to me, a significant portion of issues have been due to dud CF adapters. If you have another adapter, or some other IDE device, give that a try.

    Second, you need to make sure that any existing partitioning is destroyed before trying to FDISK + FORMAT, especially with older versions of DOS. You can do this under Linux using the `dd` command, or use WIPEDISK under DOS:

    https://www.lo-tech.co.uk/wiki/WipeDisk

    You can destroy the old partitioning on any machine you like, but you really need to run FDISK and FORMAT with the drive/CF card plugged into the XT-IDE. The XT-IDE can be installed in another system with ISA slots for that part.

    You update the BIOS by putting the new BIOS ROM image and the XUB configuration utilities on a floppy (or on a non-XT-IDE hard disk) and running the configuration utility.

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    Just got DOS 5.0 installed on my 256MB Cisco card and it's booting fine in the PC. Still nothing with the Transcend (in either of two CF adapters), but that's ok - 256MB is enough.

    I ended up successfully doing what I'd hoped to do, which was get DOS 3.2 installed (since I had it), download DOS 5.0 disk images and copy them to the DOS 3.2 partition, make real floppy disks from the images, boot DOS 5.0 from floppy, wipe the DOS 3.2 partition using DOS 5.0 fdisk, then re-partition and re-format the CF card from DOS 5.0 setup. The hardest part was making real floppy disks, both since my floppy drives weren't being 100% reliable (I needed to clean and lubricate both of them before either would even format a disk without errors) and because most DOS image utilities won't work with modern disk images. Took me quite a while and a lot of trial and error to get those disks made. (I found some threads here about it and they ended up helping, but I still had to try a bunch of different utilities and conversions to get it to work.)

    Now to just update the XT-IDE BIOS - thanks for the info on how to do that. I'll try the Transcend card again after that, but if it still isn't recognized, no big deal.

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