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    Default My latest machine

    I responded to an add on Free cycle for a guy who was giving away some old machines and I went and picked them up.

    One was a P4 Dell in pretty good shape, uses RAMBus memory, so I think it is a P4 B since it is running at 2.6Ghz.

    The other machine is in fact the gem. It is a Pentium 133Mhz with 80mb of RAM (72 pin SIMMS) a 6gb hard drive and a creative CT4720 sound card. It also has 3 Turtle beach Maui MIDI cards in it.

    I'll post some more information and pictures once I get the machine plugged in and turned on.

    IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
    IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
    Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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    Some more info:

    • CPU: Intel Pentium-S / P54C 133MHz CPGA
    • Motherboard: ASUS P/I-XP55T2P4 w/ 8kb L1 and 512kb L2 cache
    • RAM: 32Mb 32Mb 8Mb 8Mb 72-pin EDO chips - 80Mb Total
    • Graphics: Trident 9660 w/ 1mb RAM
    • Sound: Ensoniqu AudioPCI-97 ES1371
    • Network: 3com Etherlink III (PCI) 3C590TPO
    • HDD: 6281.4Mb (in 3 2Gb Partitions)
    • Removable Drives:1.44Mb Floppy, Sanyo CD-Rom
    • Other: Turtle Beach Maui Midi Wavetable Cards (ISA)
    • OS: MS-DOS 6.22 w/ Windows 3.11
    Last edited by lutiana; April 17th, 2011 at 12:01 AM.

    IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
    IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
    Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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    Assuming you like the form factor, that looks like a perfect DOS box almost as is. Just partition it properly and you're ready to go.

    I think I've got a couple of Etherlink III cards, but I don't think I found drivers for them yet. Hopefully you'll fare better.
    WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole Juul View Post
    I think I've got a couple of Etherlink III cards, but I don't think I found drivers for them yet. Hopefully you'll fare better.
    Drivers for these are a problem now? Practically every OS has a driver built in for the good ol' 3c509B/C.

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    www.3com.com has gone, and HP is not including vintage drivers.
    However ftp://ftp.3com.com/ is still there for the time being.

    some forum members have mirrored it - as its not sure for how long it is up.
    “Thus, we see that one of the obvious origins of human disagreement lies in the use of noises for words.”


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    The machine is running DOS 6.22 and there is a packet driver on the system for the 3Com and Win 3.11 is setup for networking as well.

    What I think I am going to do is backup all the DOS stuff and probably dump Win98 SE onto it. I am selling the Maui cards though, since I have absolutely no use for them, hopefully some one else does.

    I just managed to update the BIOS, so at least that is the most current now. I am thinking I may try to max the RAM in it (256Mb, or 4x64mb).

    I notice there is a jumper on the board for Memory Cacheable Size, and it can be set to either 64Mb or 512Mb, the interesting thing is the max RAM (according to the manual) is 256Mb. So there are a few questions that come to mind: 1. Why would I want to cache the RAM? And Why would there be an option for twice the maximum RAM?

    Also, can someone tell me what TAG SRAM upgrade would be for?

    IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
    IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
    Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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    Quote Originally Posted by njroadfan View Post
    Drivers for these are a problem now? Practically every OS has a driver built in for the good ol' 3c509B/C.
    Yes, I never think about drivers on my BSD and Linux systems, but DOS has no drivers for anything built in. Anyway, now you mention it as 3c509 I do have a driver for that but had forgotten the alternate name - hence my confusion.

    Looking at the remd out lines in my autoexec I see that I've used it recently, but remember now that the driver was hopelessly slow in loading. I seems that it needs to probe the card first. Can't have that, so out it went ...
    WANTED: Cardinal 2450MNP modem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lutiana View Post
    I notice there is a jumper on the board for Memory Cacheable Size, and it can be set to either 64Mb or 512Mb, the interesting thing is the max RAM (according to the manual) is 256Mb. So there are a few questions that come to mind: 1. Why would I want to cache the RAM? And Why would there be an option for twice the maximum RAM?

    Also, can someone tell me what TAG SRAM upgrade would be for?
    The first Intel Triton Pentium chipsets (FX) were only able to cache the first 64MB ram.
    You board has the HX chipset, that solved that - provided that the additional TAG SRAM was installed.

    So.. if you install that, you need to change the jumper to 512MB. If its not installed, 64 MB.

    Your manual is here:
    ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/.../xp55...55t2p4-300.pdf

    You want to cache the ram because its slow, and having more ram than the cacheble size might give a bit of odd (slow) behaviour - many people wanted to add more RAM to increase their systems speed, but achieved the opposite when exceeding the cacheble size.
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    Ahh, that makes sense. But why would the setting be for twice as much RAM as the system can have? IE the max the board will take is 256mb, yet it can cache up to 512Mb.

    IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
    IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
    Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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    Quote Originally Posted by lutiana View Post
    Ahh, that makes sense. But why would the setting be for twice as much RAM as the system can have? IE the max the board will take is 256mb, yet it can cache up to 512Mb.
    Chipset thing - the max cacheble is 512 for the chipset- whether the mainboard takes it or not.
    “Thus, we see that one of the obvious origins of human disagreement lies in the use of noises for words.”


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