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    Stone, I'm curious to know what your tweener is. But good question. Is there a way for Windows computers to see Dos computers on the network?
    Obsolete PCs in running condition that I've had since new:
    *Tall tower, Intel 386 20mhz Micronics board, 2 MB RAM, DOS 3.3 dual booting PC-MOS 4.0.
    *Mini tower, AMD 386, 40mhz, 32 MB RAM, 256K L2, Acer board, Windows 3.11, DOS 5.0
    *Gigantor tower, Intel 486 66mhz Gateway 2000, Anigma board, 128 MB RAM, 256k L2, Windows 95b
    *Med. tower, Pentium III 450 mhz Intel SE-440BX-2 board, 768 MB RAM, Windows 98SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
    Stone, I'm curious to know what your tweener is.
    It's got a 233MhZ CPU in a PCI/ISA board that has both AT and ATX power connectors, and SIMM and DIMM memory slots. I've installed a couple of Lian-Li Mobile Drive Racks so I can swap hard drives in a snap and I have a stack of drives with various OSes on them. Normally I run WIN98SE DOS on it because it offers FAT-32 hard drive availability. But I also have nearly all DOS versions on floppies and both 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives in the machine as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
    Stone, I'm curious to know what your tweener is. But good question. Is there a way for Windows computers to see Dos computers on the network?
    There's a number of options you could try using UNBD to transfer the files .

    One is MSs own dos network client:
    http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/dosclien.htm
    http://www.compmiscellanea.com/en/ne...ork-client.htm
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc750214.aspx

    To add server capability to the dos client, using WG1049.EXE, refer to:
    http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/dosservr.htm

    Other usefull reference pages:
    http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.ph...eeDOS_complete
    http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/dos.html


    Strip the network component from wfw 3.11
    http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/lib...ork/wfwdos.htm


    XP can support NetBeui http://californiasoftwaresystems.com...or-windows-xp/ to keep the memory overheads down compared to using a TCP/IP in the MS Dos Client.

    You'll have to disable the settings Heather mentioned earlier in Windows 7/8x though I'd imagine if going the tcp/ip route withe dos client.
    Seems you might be able to add neteui to Widows 7 Post #62 http://www.sevenforums.com/network-s...dows-xp-7.html Running in netbeui in xp mode is probably a better option though.
    Last edited by Caluser2000; November 22nd, 2014 at 07:40 PM. Reason: corrections & additions
    Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    It's got a 233MhZ CPU in a PCI/ISA board that has both AT and ATX power connectors, and SIMM and DIMM memory slots. I've installed a couple of Lian-Li Mobile Drive Racks so I can swap hard drives in a snap and I have a stack of drives with various OSes on them. Normally I run WIN98SE DOS on it because it offers FAT-32 hard drive availability. But I also have nearly all DOS versions on floppies and both 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives in the machine as well.
    That is impressive! I guess you have ALL of the bases covered.
    Obsolete PCs in running condition that I've had since new:
    *Tall tower, Intel 386 20mhz Micronics board, 2 MB RAM, DOS 3.3 dual booting PC-MOS 4.0.
    *Mini tower, AMD 386, 40mhz, 32 MB RAM, 256K L2, Acer board, Windows 3.11, DOS 5.0
    *Gigantor tower, Intel 486 66mhz Gateway 2000, Anigma board, 128 MB RAM, 256k L2, Windows 95b
    *Med. tower, Pentium III 450 mhz Intel SE-440BX-2 board, 768 MB RAM, Windows 98SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caluser2000 View Post
    There's a number of options you could try using UNBD to transfer the files .

    One is MSs own dos network client:
    http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/dosclien.htm
    http://www.compmiscellanea.com/en/ne...ork-client.htm
    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc750214.aspx

    To add server capability to the dos client, using WG1049.EXE, refer to:
    http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/dosservr.htm

    Other usefull reference pages:
    http://www.freedos.org/wiki/index.ph...eeDOS_complete
    http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/samba/dos.html


    Strip the network component from wfw 3.11
    http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/lib...ork/wfwdos.htm


    XP can support NetBeui http://californiasoftwaresystems.com...or-windows-xp/ to keep the memory overheads down compared to using a TCP/IP in the MS Dos Client.

    You'll have to disable the settings Heather mentioned earlier in Windows 7/8x though I'd imagine if going the tcp/ip route withe dos client.
    Seems you might be able to add neteui to Widows 7 Post #62 http://www.sevenforums.com/network-s...dows-xp-7.html Running in netbeui in xp mode is probably a better option though.
    It looks like it might be impracticable with the UNBD floppy idea.
    Obsolete PCs in running condition that I've had since new:
    *Tall tower, Intel 386 20mhz Micronics board, 2 MB RAM, DOS 3.3 dual booting PC-MOS 4.0.
    *Mini tower, AMD 386, 40mhz, 32 MB RAM, 256K L2, Acer board, Windows 3.11, DOS 5.0
    *Gigantor tower, Intel 486 66mhz Gateway 2000, Anigma board, 128 MB RAM, 256k L2, Windows 95b
    *Med. tower, Pentium III 450 mhz Intel SE-440BX-2 board, 768 MB RAM, Windows 98SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyray View Post
    That is impressive! I guess you have ALL of the bases covered.
    No, not at all... I wish.

    It's got a USB card but so far I've been unable to get anything to reliably recognise the USB sticks from DOS. MTCP and UNBD are great but a USB drive, flash or otherwise, would be better. And, there's a few other bases I'd like to cover as well at some point.
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    If you're looking for DS/DD or DS/HD 3" or 5" floppy disks, PM me. I've got some new, used, and factory over-labeled disks for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post

    It's got a USB card but so far I've been unable to get anything to reliably recognise the USB sticks from DOS.
    I have gotten
    USBASPI.SYS
    and
    DI1000DD.SYS
    to support a flash driver under DOS.

    The catch is you have to reboot to change devices and it slows down boot significantly

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    I haven't had success with that.
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    If you're looking for DS/DD or DS/HD 3" or 5" floppy disks, PM me. I've got some new, used, and factory over-labeled disks for sale.

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    Hey Stone. You are correct that the network boot disk allows you to see network shares, but it does not contain any code for sharing its drives. You would need some sort of DOS based file sharing software that works with the UNBD's TCP/IP stack. I'm sure there is something out there, but I never bothered investigating it.

    Heather

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    I haven't had success with that.
    What version of usbaspi.sys are you using, I've found V 2.20 to be pretty solid, I've had no problems accessing 9 different flash drives and a couple of CF Card readers i have here, Under Dos 6.22.

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