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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ST1 View Post
    All Motorola 68000 based homecomputers and consoles are 32 Bit machines.
    None of them were marketed as such though.
    Amigas, Ataris, Macs etc were considered 16-bit.

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    It's the same as the 8088 is also a 16 bit machine with 8 bit bus.
    Again, machines built around an 8088 were never marketed as 16-bit machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scali View Post
    Again, machines built around an 8088 were never marketed as 16-bit machines.
    Wrong:


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    Quote Originally Posted by vwestlife View Post
    Wrong:
    I said *machine*, not *microprocessor*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scali View Post
    I said *machine*, not *microprocessor*.
    PC Magazine, Feb-Mar 1982
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    https://books.google.com/books?id=w_...page&q&f=false


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    Gary Kildall's opinion is not IBM marketing.
    This manual for example, lumps PC/XT systems together in the 8-bit category, and has good reasons to do so (see page 23 and further):
    http://ptgmedia.pearsoncmg.com/impri...VD/PCs10th.pdf
    This is how the systems were commonly viewed historically. The CPU was not the defining factor.
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    Bringing this thread back on-topic for a moment....

    These guys are dreaming. Their images are poorly-photoshopped images. That's not the way to get me to shell out my cash on a dream. Their association with NASCAR... uh.... weird. I mean, I get that they're trying to offer some unique tiers, but uh.... weird. They'd have done better offering a few NOS pieces of the games that they plan to emulate, IMO. Their explanation that their game is an app which will bring up the virtual keyboard when it's needed. OK. Gotcha. But if an emulator does that with a button press, why would I pay you to do this for me? I'm not advocating piracy here, but chances are if I'm purchasing a digital copy of a game, it's because I already own that game and wish to enjoy it in another manner. Give me a good emulator, and I'll create a disk image and transport the game I want to play myself, violating no copyrights, with no need to repurchase.

    A nice idea... but this one's gonna fall flat on it's face. They'd have been better off to have gone for a "best of amiga" collection that's available world-wide via PSN or X-Box Live with stretch goals to include mobile support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scali View Post
    None of them were marketed as such though.
    Amigas, Ataris, Macs etc were considered 16-bit.
    Bullshit

    http://www.storiesofapple.net/meet-t...permicros.html

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    Fine, Apple actually DID market them as 32-bit then (should have known, Steve Jobs and all. You never saw any Apples in this part of the world anyway, so I'm not familiar with their marketing). Or did they? I see they use the term '32 SuperMicro', but I can't actually read the text, so not sure if they ever say '32-bit' or merely imply it with the use of '32'.
    Edit: http://www.248am.com/images/apple_32_supermicro.jpg
    I only see '32-bit microprocessor' there, which is stretching things somewhat, but not entirely wrong. I don't see them claiming that the *system* is 32-bit.

    The others weren't. And Apples weren't seen as any more 32-bit than the others at least.

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    Apple was not shy to advertise the Macintosh's "32-bit power":


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    Istr that my Amiga box literature referred to the 68000 as a 16/32-bit system, and I'm Real certain Atari saw it that way as well (since ST is short for sixteen thirty-two).

    Regardless I've always thought of a machines bitness as the word size the processor could support, rather than the data bus width.

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