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    Default Poor Kaypro 10

    I paid $25 for this thing. It may have been too expensive considering how much work it needs. Here's what I've got at a glance:

    - The Z80 and hard drive (including the cage) have been removed
    - The header for one of the hard drive cables has been destroyed
    - One of the latches that holds the keyboard to the case is broken
    - The space bar is missing
    - The keyboard has a large dent in the opposite side
    - The cooling fan is seized

    I'm not too worried about the Z80 chip, since I can get one straight from China for $2. The hard drive shouldn't be much of a problem either since I have a couple of old spare drives kicking around. I should be able to build a cage, straighten the enclosures, solder in a new header, and replace the cooling fan.

    The only things I'm concerned about are the space bar and the latches. I could probably rip a couple of the nice metal latches off an old suitcase or something and mount them, but I'm at a loss for the space bar. I do have a Kaypro II, so I could easily use that while this keyboard is under repair. Chances are all the foam pads have turned to mush anyway, so I'm not in a hurry to get it up and running.
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    Weirdly, I found a video of the prior user of that KayPro...


    Edit: I wish I could help on the space bar, kudos to you for taking on this level of restoration project. I'd think $25 is quite fair though considering what you got.
    Last edited by EagleTG; August 2nd, 2016 at 11:31 AM. Reason: Switched video to embedded

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    Considering the vandalism on the unit, it's surprising that the rest of the unit looks to be in respectable condition. I suspect that a space bar won't be hard to find or adapt--the equalizer wire looks to be pretty standard.

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    OUCH!!! That thing definitely looks like it was ridden hard and put away soaking wet! It's a shame the hard drive was removed, since I think these things are rather limited in the sorts of drives they can take. Plus, why the hell would someone pull the CPU?! It's not like it holds any secure data or anything. As for the keyboard, the existing one might work just fine once the space bar is replaced. The keyboard in my 10 seems to work perfectly fine, except for a snapped-off ESC key thanks to ol' butterfingers (me) dropping it while trying to latch it to the front of the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bungo Pony View Post
    I paid $25 for this thing. It may have been too expensive considering how much work it needs. Here's what I've got at a glance:

    - The Z80 and hard drive (including the cage) have been removed
    - The header for one of the hard drive cables has been destroyed
    - One of the latches that holds the keyboard to the case is broken
    - The space bar is missing
    - The keyboard has a large dent in the opposite side
    - The cooling fan is seized

    I'm not too worried about the Z80 chip, since I can get one straight from China for $2. The hard drive shouldn't be much of a problem either since I have a couple of old spare drives kicking around. I should be able to build a cage, straighten the enclosures, solder in a new header, and replace the cooling fan.

    The only things I'm concerned about are the space bar and the latches. I could probably rip a couple of the nice metal latches off an old suitcase or something and mount them, but I'm at a loss for the space bar. I do have a Kaypro II, so I could easily use that while this keyboard is under repair. Chances are all the foam pads have turned to mush anyway, so I'm not in a hurry to get it up and running.
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    The latches are standard hardware items - I've replaced them before.

    The dent - if it bothers you, use a hammer and fix it.

    Keys - It uses a chicony style keyboard with the switches having a + shaped mount - should be able to find a compatible space bar.

    If by header you mean the .10 spaced pins - pull off the plastic that holds the pins then unsolder the pins one at a time - replacement headers are cheap.

    Sounds like a good deal over all as long as two things are working - the screen and the hard disk controller.


    Randy

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    If you're given to hammering out dents, use the appropriate tool. Something made to pound nails can and will usually leave marks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    If you're given to hammering out dents, use the appropriate tool. Something made to pound nails can and will usually leave marks.
    I've beaten a lot of dents out of old computers, had one client that was a junior college.

    The dents were all bent in, any hammer on a solid wood table can straighten it (leaving marks on the inside

    Be ready to re-paint whole panel.

    Hammers wouldn't help the SA-850's that boots had caved in though.

    BTW I was trying to look up the latches - ebay has a couple for $7.50, I used to buy them from local hardware store for less than $2.00. They are cooler latches from cheap ice coolers.




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    Last edited by Randy McLaughlin; August 2nd, 2016 at 03:30 PM.

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    Yeah, for hammering out the dents, I was going to use a couple pieces of wood. The one on the keyboard might need a ball peen. For latches, I was looking at guitar case latches, but ice cooler ones would probably work.

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    Well, if you've got an English Wheel, even better for dents.

    I'd go with the guitar case latches, or drop by a luggage shop--they often have all sorts of latches for repair. Or try a music store--they often have case repair parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    Well, if you've got an English Wheel, even better for dents.

    I'd go with the guitar case latches, or drop by a luggage shop--they often have all sorts of latches for repair. Or try a music store--they often have case repair parts.
    The nylon cooler latches I was referring to were the original Kaypro latches - They really are cooler latches

    In the 80's I was able to buy them at my local hardware store.


    Randy

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