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    Quote Originally Posted by alecv View Post
    Interesting PC Mag issue about "Scienstific coprocessors" for early PC
    PC Mag 14 Apr 1987
    "Changing the rules of the game"
    page 208
    https://books.google.ru/books?id=Jr7...page&q&f=false
    DSI-32 and similar boards
    The Definicon boards (DSI-32, etc.) are related to the PD32 because the authors (Dave Rand & George Scolaro) are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynchaj View Post
    The Definicon boards (DSI-32, etc.) are related to the PD32 because the authors (Dave Rand & George Scolaro) are the same.
    Will Definicon's software work for PD-32 ?

    Udo Muller tested it and has some troubles with:
    http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Defsoft.html
    About DSI-32 board:
    http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Defhard.html


    P.S. He is looking for IBM AT with EGA card (for test this software)
    Looking for an old graphic card is not an option in 2015. If anybody in central Europe has still a functional PC-AT he or she should sent me a note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecv View Post
    Will Definicon's software work for PD-32 ?

    Udo Muller tested it and has some troubles with:
    http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Defsoft.html
    About DSI-32 board:
    http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Defhard.html


    P.S. He is looking for IBM AT with EGA card (for test this software)
    Looking for an old graphic card is not an option in 2015. If anybody in central Europe has still a functional PC-AT he or she should sent me a note.
    Not to my knowledge. The PD32 has its own software. It is similar but different than the Definicon DSI-32 board series. I've asked Dave Rand to post his PD32 software at the PD32 repository on Berklix.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynchaj View Post
    Who is interested in building a "Public Domain 32000" ISA board if it were produced in small hobbyist quantities?
    I would be interested in building a few, looks like a fun project.

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    Seems it's a software for an American Information Systems board.
    I've found virtually nothing about this company. They made an add-on 32000 cards
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...4/wKxMuEH4yG8J

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Kossow View Post
    This software is for Opus Systems Opus5 board.
    http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Opus.html
    This board also known under the name SYS32/20 by National Semiconductor
    National Semiconductor's SYS32/20 is a complete,
    high performance development package that converts
    an IBM-PC/AT or compatible system into an ideal
    environment for the support of Series 32000-based
    applications.
    ...
    The SYS32/20 contains the OpUS5™ operating system.
    Opus5 is a complete port of AT&T's UNIX System V Release 3
    (V.3), and is derived from GENIX V.3,
    National Semiconductor's port of UNIX System V.3.

    http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stut...s_Databook.pdf
    (Section 6-9) See a b/w image of the board and compare it with photo at site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eeguru View Post
    I don't mean to be challenge your work or objectives, however what is the point in designing a +5V PTH home-brew logic board for a CPU that is extinct outside of an FPGA core? If you are going the later route, make it easier and shove all that logic into the FPGA and use a commodity eval board.
    Hi, the FPGA approach to the NS32K CPU has already been done by Udo. Check out his website here for a description: http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Overview.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by alecv View Post
    Seems it's a software for an American Information Systems board.
    I've found virtually nothing about this company. They made an add-on 32000 cards
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...4/wKxMuEH4yG8J
    They were a small company in Palo Alto circa 1985 that made QBus coprocessor cards for LSI-11's running RSX-11M
    The GENIX magtape image was an original distribution tape from National. The other tape image are firmware sources for their board.

    This software is for Opus Systems Opus5 board.
    http://www.cpu-ns32k.net/Opus.html
    This board also known under the name SYS32/20 by National Semiconductor
    I uploaded the wrong cartridge tape images. Mostly what I have is for the 88000 series boards.
    I have one tape with some 32K bits on it, but the disk on bitsavers is full so I can't upload any more.
    Also, the cartridge tapes were in poor condition, I recovered what I could years ago.

    I didn't dig farther into the floppy disk images that I uploaded.

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    Al Kossow Thank you for archiving these tapes!
    "AmericanInformationSystems" includes sources for the
    National Semiconductor's GENIX (a 41BSD port to the ns32k)
    and SNXC16 (later known as GNX) crosstools!

    I've successfully run a National Semiconductor's SNXC16 cross tool
    It includes C ans Pascal compilers, linker, assembler and supporting tools.
    Assembler accepts an "old" or "classic" NS 16000/32000 syntax !

    http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/p...s_Databook.pdf
    p.118 p.121 (this XNSC16 version for 41BSD)
    http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/p...0_dataBook.pdf
    section 9-7 (a newer version for 42BSD, I have no this version)

    To run SNXC16 crosstools you need a working 41BSD VAX. I've successfully
    run 41BSD VAX under SIMH emulator.
    http://gunkies.org/wiki/4.1_BSD
    http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.1_BSD_on_SIMH

    It runs !

    Unfortunately SNXC16 coredumps under 42BSD and 43BSD with
    "bad system call" error. A newer GNX should work. I still have no working
    network under 41BSD and still seeking a way to exchange to/from host.
    I can "import" files into SIMH via "tape" but can't extract a "tape" image.

    GENIX sourcecode contains a full 16000/32000 assember "as" sources written
    in Pascal (sic!). It is teoretically possible to compile it for modern system and
    even Windows/Cygwin but requites alot of efforts - some files are in n32k
    assembly and should be carefully translated to C/Pascal or local i386
    assembler.

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    I've just tried NSC cross tools under 4.1c BSD (a latest 4.1 version before 4.2 BSD)
    NSC crosstools works too!
    http://gunkies.org/wiki/Installing_4.1c_BSD_on_SIMH

    To extract a .tap SIMH tape image there is s "extracters/rawtap" ulility from the SIMH's utils:
    https://github.com/simh/simtools

    A full 32000 toolchain is ready!

    P.S. Another interesting finding:
    a Portable C compiler (pcc) ported to 16032
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_C_Compiler
    http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/Portable_CC/
    Last edited by alecv; August 6th, 2017 at 09:05 AM.

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    JFYI:

    A page about PD-32 board:
    http://cpu-ns32k.net/PD32.html

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