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    Hi everyone,

    Today I tried hooking up my 40MB Seagate ST-157a from my AST 286 up to my modern Win10 PC to copy over some files. To my surprise this worked just fine, windows recognized the disk and was able to read and write to it. I reattached the drive to my 286 and everything was working well and I was able to play some new games I had copied over. I realized there were some files I forgot so I reconnected the drive to windows and copied the rest, this is when things went awry. When the disk was reconnected to my 286 it would not boot. I got the standard "NON SYSTEM DISK OR ERROR". The disk will read in windows and in dos when booting from the floppy but it simply will not boot.

    At this point I have tried reformatting the disk, reinstalling DOS onto it but still nothing. Anyone know whats going on with the disk? is it dead? I don't care about the data on the disk its all just copies of stuff I have elsewhere however I would very much like to continue using it. Is there anything I can do to get it working again?
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    I had a similar "this doesn't make any sense" issue with an ST157A last week.
    Had a MS DOS 6.2 install on it, would not boot. Did DOS installs using the original installer (DOS 5), and doing SYS commands (DOS 5 and DOS 6), and it wouldn't stick - always "non-system disk or disk error".

    So I did FDISK /MBR, then did SYS A: C: - and that cleared it up. Now it boots like a champion.
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    Just gave that a shot, Unfortunately no luck.

    You just ran fdisk /MBR from the a drive with no other parameters?

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    A:\>FDISK /MBR
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    Windows can do a lot of strange things to the partition table without telling you. Consider the Win95 "volume tracking" software clobbering floppy disk boot sectors silently.

    What does FDISK show for partition information?

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    IMG_20171129_223327.jpg

    that's what we get from fdisk
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    You said it works fine after booting from a floppy. Is that so bad? You only have to boot it once and then everything's the same for the whole remainder of the session which can be hours or even days.
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    Let's try something. Do you have a boot floppy with the same version of DOS on it?

    If you boot that, what happens if you do a SYS C: from the command prompt (make sure that you have the SYS.COM on your disk)?

    The should rewrite the partition boot sector and transfer new copies of the system files without erasing any other data on the drive.

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    Already tried that, no luck. Maybe low level format?
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    That seems to be a bit extreme, considering that you're not showing any surface errors (unless I missed something).

    What does an CHKDSK C:*.* say when run from floppy?

    Failing that, we can have a peek at your MBR using DEBUG. A LLF might cure the problem, but you're going to have to reload the whole disk if you do. I've seen this happen when the host machine thinks the geometry is different from the system that created the disk, but this is the system that originally made the disk, right?

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    Actually this disk was made in a 386 I have. Forgot to mention that, I upgraded the drive in the 386 and moved this to my 286 cause I thought it would be more appropriate, I didn't think this would cause a problem.
    Currently working on new DOS game, Chuck Jones: Space Cop of the Future, Check out my Dev Blog. WARNING: contains rocket powered El Caminos

    Vintage Computers:
    Unitron Apple II clone, 2x Commodore Vic-20, Commodore 64, Commodore 128, Amiga 500, Macintosh Plus, Macintosh SE, AST Premium 286, 3 386sx PCs, Atari TT030

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