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    Default Looking for DECserver MNENG2.SYS, MNENG3.SYS, and MNENG4.SYS boot files

    I already have copies of these DECserver boot files from OpenVMS VAX Software Product Library CD-ROMs:

    PR0801ENG.SYS (DECserver 200, VCBAA / DS2033)
    SH1601ENG.SYS (DECserver 300, VTUAA / DS3C022)
    MNENG1.SYS (DECserver 90TL, MJPAA / DS9C011)

    I'm looking for MNENG2.SYS, MNENG3.SYS, and MNENG4.SYS boot files for DECserver 90M / 90M+ which apparently were never part of any OpenVMS VAX Software Product Library CD-ROMs, and were part of Digital Network Access Software (DNAS) kits.

    Looks like a common question on the net over the years. Can't find any links anywhere on the net which still work. Some members here must have copies of these files saved away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gslick View Post
    I'm looking for MNENG2.SYS, MNENG3.SYS, and MNENG4.SYS boot files for DECserver 90M / 90M+ which apparently were never part of any OpenVMS VAX Software Product Library CD-ROMs, and were part of Digital Network Access Software (DNAS) kits.

    Looks like a common question on the net over the years. Can't find any links anywhere on the net which still work. Some members here must have copies of these files saved away.
    I have a "DECserver Network Access Software 2.4" CD which has MNENG2.SYS and MNENG3.SYS, but not MNENG4.SYS. Someone else probably has something newer.

    The versions are:
    Network Access SW V2.4 BL50 for DS90TL
    DECserver90TM Network Access SW V2.4 BL50

    The CD also has documentation files in .ps and .pdf format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Kennedy View Post
    I have a "DECserver Network Access Software 2.4" CD which has MNENG2.SYS and MNENG3.SYS, but not MNENG4.SYS. Someone else probably has something newer.
    Any chance you could image the whole CD and upload the file temporarily to Google drive or similar? There is probably other useful stuff on that CD that would be good to have. I have found references to that CD on the net but no pointers to where an image of it could be found.

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    We can upload them to the terminals wiki for general access.

    I want to collect together all the necessary files for the various terminal servers and X Window System terminals (they often netboot their server software from a host) in a central place and linked from the terminals wiki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gslick View Post
    Any chance you could image the whole CD and upload the file temporarily to Google drive or similar? There is probably other useful stuff on that CD that would be good to have. I have found references to that CD on the net but no pointers to where an image of it could be found.
    Here you go: https://www.glaver.org/transient/DNAS24.zip

    Edit - removed file as it is now hosted elsewhere.
    Last edited by Terry Kennedy; February 1st, 2018 at 08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legalize View Post
    We can upload them to the terminals wiki for general access.

    I want to collect together all the necessary files for the various terminal servers and X Window System terminals (they often netboot their server software from a host) in a central place and linked from the terminals wiki.
    That would be good if you could host that type of software. It can be hard to find.

    I think I previously sent you a set of 3 CD images for HP Netstation Software Version 7.1 for HP ENVIZEX, ENTRIA and 700/RX, and Version 9.1 for HP ENVIZEX II and ENTRIA II X Window System terminals.

    I also recently found an original NCDware 5.1.40 software CD after I had been looking for one of those for a while and couldn't find a CD image on the net.

    Back to DECserver software, the following can be found on various sets of VMS Consolidated Software Distribution / Software Layered Product Library CD sets over the years and I have these:

    DECserver 200 - VCBAA Version 3.3 [DS2033]
    DECserver 250 - VTMAA Version 2.0 [DS25020]
    DECserver 300 - VTUAA Version 2.2C [DS3C022]
    DECserver 500/550 - 03KAA Version 2.2 [DS5022]
    DECserver 700 - XA5AA Version 1.1C [DS7C011]
    DECserver 90 TL - MJPAA Version 1.1C [DS9C011]

    I don't have these, which were on some Consolidated Software Distribution / Layered Products Software Binaries / Software Product Library Supplement CD sets around 1993 - 1995:

    DECserver Network Access Software - 0LWAA Version 1.0 [NA7010], Version 1.3 [NA7013], or Version 1.5 [NA7015]

    Not sure what those include. Maybe early versions of files later available on the "DECserver Network Access Software 2.4" CD.
    Last edited by gslick; February 1st, 2018 at 07:15 PM.

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    Yes, I have those X Terminal images online. I just noticed that directory listing wasn't enabled, so I fixed that.

    http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/mirror/

    I need to link the relevant stuff from there back to the terminals wiki, or perhaps move it to the wiki site itself.

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    I've archived the DECserver Network Access Software ZIP contents here:

    http://terminals-wiki.org/collections/DEC/DECserver/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Kennedy View Post
    Excellent. Thanks a bunch for doing that. One thing to note with that image is that it was imaged with 2352 byte sectors. I couldn't directly mount the image file on a Windows system. I used ImgBurn to burn the image to a physical CD, then used ImgBurn to read it back into a new image with 2048 byte sectors. I was then able to mount that image file on a Windows system, and also attach the 2048 byte sector image file to a SIMH VAX running OpenVMS and mount it there.

    Took a bit to figure out how to install DNAS V2.4 on OpenVMS from the CD.

    First I copied DNASVAX.EXE from the CD to a scratch directory, for example:
    $ COPY DUA1:[DNAS.OPENVMS]DNASVAX.EXE;1 DUA0:[SCRATCH]

    Then run that self-extracting file DNASVAX.EXE in the scratch directory, for example
    $ SET DEF DUA0:[SCRATCH]
    $ RUN DNASVAX.EXE

    That should extract the backup file DNAS024.BCK into the scratch directory.

    Then restore the installation file set from the backup file DNAS024.BCK, for example:
    $ BACKUP DNAS024.BCK/SAVE_SET DUA0:[SCRATCH]

    Then run VMSINSTAL to install from the DNAS024 installation files restored from the backup file DNAS024.BCK, for example:
    $ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL DNAS024 DUA0:[SCRATCH] OPTIONS N

    Among other things that installs copies of MNENG2.SYS, MNENG3.SYS, and WWENG2.SYS to SYS$COMMON:[DECSERVER].


    After doing all of that I was able to get a DECserver 90TL to boot from the MNENG3 image. I haven't looked at it to see what operational changes there might be between the MNENG1 image I already had and the MNENG3 image.

    Note that this only works on a DECserver 90TL with a 4MB SIMM installed. With a 1MB SIMM installed there is only enough memory for the MNENG1 image.

    Apparently the MNENG2 image is a compressed version of the MNENG3 image. It took the DECserver 90TL over 6 minutes to download the MNENG2 image and then decompress it and initialize compared to only just over 1 minute to download the MNENG3 image and initialize. The only reason to use the MNENG2 image is on a DECserver 90M which only has 1MB of flash to store the image. A DECserver 90M with 4MB of flash can store the MNENG3 image.

    Example of successfully booting a 4MB DECserver 90TL from the MNENG3 image:

    Code:
    Local -901- Initializing DECserver 90TL 08-00-2B-A1-DB-53 FW V 2.0.0 HW 3.0
    
    Local -960- Available Memory 4 Mbytes
    Local -969- Requesting Specified Software MNENG3
    Local -953- [MOP] Attempting to locate load host [ETHERNET]
    Local -955- [MOP] Host AA-00-04-00-46-04 located [ETHERNET]
    Local -956- [MOP] Requesting load from host AA-00-04-00-46-04
    Local -903- [MOP] Loading from host AA-00-04-00-46-04
    Local -904- Image load complete
    
    Local - Telnet listener failed to bind socket
    Local - LPD listener failed to bind socket
    Local - No internet address - SNMP not enabled
    Local -040- Software initialization complete
    
    
    Network Access SW V2.4 BL50 for DS90TL
    
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    Thanks for that info! I've captured it into a ReadMe.txt with the cue/bin files so that this information will stay with the disk image.

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