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    hi, i'm trying internet connection on my pentium100 with 16mb ram. internet explorer 3 nowdays doesn't work. i've tried an old version of firefox, it works vut is veeery slow... i think is because of low ram.

    which browser is the best for my system? Olivetti P100 m4

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    Might give opera 10.10 or earlier a try. But many of the memory problems aren't that of the web browser, but rather the "modern" web sites that literally insist on loading 1000 giant scripts and tracking sites just to display a single page of text. There is also the problem that a huge chunk of the web is now using HTTPS, which means if you don't have the absolute latest browser your risk being unable to load sites at all.

    On the other hand, Mozilla/Firefox had performance problems from day 1, and the only reason they seemed to get faster was because hardware got faster. Now that hardware isn't really getting faster any more, Google Chrome is eating their lunch.

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    i will try opera. should i use some particolar settings?

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    Anything other than a text only browser on such a system is going to be painful. Very painful. The web today is very different from when this system was current. Today's web sites download megabytes of of data just for fonts - and aren't even ashamed of it!
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    The best option I've seen for Windows 95 is going to be either Firefox 2.0.0.20 (for instructions see http://sdfox7.com/win95/firefox.htm) or this improved, equivalent build of SeaMonkey that has some tweaks (see the rest of the page for NSS/HTTPS improvements and even an adblocker): http://toastytech.com/files/95browsing.html

    None of these are going to be quick on a P100. I would strongly advise putting all the memory into that system you can; I think it can take up to 128MB according to the tech sheet I found. Also, it goes without saying that these browsers have significant security holes, to say nothing of Windows 95 itself. But if you're just surfing for the helluvit and you're behind an appropriately configured firewall, why not.

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    On the other hand, Mozilla/Firefox had performance problems from day 1, and the only reason they seemed to get faster was because hardware got faster. Now that hardware isn't really getting faster any more, Google Chrome is eating their lunch.
    This gets repeated so often, and as usual, the actual history is more complicated. When Firefox 1.0 (Mozilla 1.7) emerged, it was substantially faster than Internet Explorer, and TraceMonkey in Firefox 3.5 was easily competitive with V8 in Chrome. Chrome undisputably eclipsed it for a number of years, especially from 3.6 to around 45, but the reengineering for Quantum has paid off and while Chrome retains an edge, Chrome and Firefox now compete back in forth in many benchmarks. See, among others, https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...afari-vs-edge/ https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/f...ntum-vs-chrome https://mashable.com/2017/11/15/goog...refox-quantum/ http://www.itpro.co.uk/web-browsers/...microsoft-edge

    This isn't to say Firefox is perfect, and its performance particularly on Macs is noticeably worse (on Windows it's at least in the ballpark, but not Mac). But blanket assertions like this that Firefox was never fast, or was a monotonic descent into technical failure, are just not accurate.

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    You could give NetSurf a try, I don't know if the Windows port runs on Win95 or not but it at least is designed for really low-spec machines. Honestly I really doubt you're going to get anywhere 16MB of RAM. Even back in the mid-'90s that wasn't enough for surfing. You might be able to post on some lightweight forums like this one or Vogons with it, but forget about "modern" sites.

    I've used NetSurf on an AppleTV (1GHz P3 with 256MB of RAM) running Debian+LXDE; it did "OK". Even that thing is roughly 10x more powerful than what you're running. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupri View Post
    hi, i'm trying internet connection on my pentium100 with 16mb ram. internet explorer 3 nowdays doesn't work. i've tried an old version of firefox, it works vut is veeery slow... i think is because of low ram.

    which browser is the best for my system? Olivetti P100 m4
    Firefox will run slow on that processor. If you want speed on that system a text browser such as Lynx will be your best bet.http://www.vordweb.co.uk/standards/download_lynx.htm

    Here's a link to Opera 10 https://filehippo.com/download_opera/6109/

    I have a P200MMX system with linux and 256megs of ram running Opera 8. I might give Netsurf a trot on it.
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    My old standby for minimalist browsing on Win9x boxes is K-Meleon with Javascript disabled, although I haven't actually used it in forever so I don't know if it even still runs on 9x now that they've started updating again.
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    i bought 128mb ram for this system... olivetti P100 m4...
    is possible to upgrade cpu from 100 to 200mhz too?

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