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    One thing about FixPacks is you don't have to install the previous ones just the latest. This can led to problems though. On my old Warp 4 install FP15 broke the system so I backed out of it and installed FP14 which worked fine.
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    Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caluser2000 View Post
    One thing you'll need is a file manager as OS/2s handling of files can be quircky. I use File Freedom. http://www.ecsoft2.org/file-freedom
    Another useful link. Thanks!

    -CH-

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    If you prefer a text-mode file manager, there's File Commander - http://silk.apana.org.au/fc.html

    BTW, OS/2 Warp 4 and OS/2 Warp Server for e-Business were later available as "Convenience Packs", ie. integrated with latest FixPacks.

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    All you need is at http://www.os2site.com/.

    Please read http://www.os2site.com/0.readme.txt as you have to get a username/password if you didn't use an OS/2 operating system for browsing.
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    Thank you all for your suggestions. After more reading I have decided to build the machine around the '586 VLB mobo and to run the disk system as HPFS on a 20 Gb SCSI drive from the DTC Vesa SCSI controller. At this point I do not intend to integrate either MS-DOS or Windows with the system; as this is sort of a test drive / learning experience. OS/2 with training wheels.

    I have read (here: http://www.edm2.com/index.php/OS/2_W...tween_Versions) that the HPFS can support up to 512 Gb in version 3.0 and I guess I'll find out if that's so. As far as the mobo CMOS is concerned there is no HD; this was recommended by the DTC documentation. Presumably the DTC BIOS will handle the cylinder-head-sector translation.

    The machine is booting from a 1.4 Mb DOS floppy at the moment; the DTC controller is recognizing the HD, installing its BIOS and then booting the FD but as my Warp installation materials are on CD I am waiting for the arrival of a SCSI CD ROM before I begin installation, which would entail partitioning and formatting the HD. Limbo for now...

    Thanks again,

    -CH-

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    For what it's worth, the floppy disk images for installing are on the CD. I think in \INSTIMGS. Also included is the xdfcopy utility you can use to write them out from DOS.

    If it's just a matter of waiting for a CD-ROM you already bought to arrive, it's probably not worth doing. But if you haven't yet found a CD-ROM drive, that'll get you out of limbo.

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    You can replace the HPFS driver with HPFS386 driver from Advance Server to get better file system performance. Maybe something to look at once you are comfortable with OS/2.
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    Thomas Byers (DRI)- "You'll have a million people using the A> [MS-DOS prompt] forever. You'll have five million using [nongraphic] menu systems such as Topview, Concurrent PC-DOS, Desq, and those types. But there'll be 50 to 100 million using the iconic-based interfaces."

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    Update: Received various components from eBay, e.g. SCSI CD ROM and SCSI cables, and began installation today. Got the Quantum HD, Panasonic SuperDisk / LS-120 and the Toshiba 40x CD ROM installed and recognized by the DTC VL 3274 host adapter. Got to the point of being able to boot from a floppy disk, also driven by the DTC controller, but ran into problems trying to install OS/2 Warp, which halted installation claiming it could not detect a hard drive.

    I went back to MS-DOS, booting from A: and ran FDISK and FORMAT and then SYS. When I rebooted I found the controller BIOS was complaining that no system had been installed. Well, duh, I thought: the DTC instructions say to set the system BIOS to "no hard drive installed". The controller reported the Quantum as C: and if I booted from a floppy, the floppy could see and communicate with drive C:, so what's the problem? I tried disabling the DTC BIOS but then there was no C: to communicate with. With the BIOS enabled booting from the floppy caused the system to hang as though there were a SCSI address conflict (which I had resolved earlier in the day.)

    After two hours of experimentation I found that after you read the instructions a sufficient number of times and change every jumper (of which there are 14) and switch (of which there are 16) you finally stumble upon the cause: The system board is set to a "CPU frequency" of 33.3 MHz. The DTC has a switch for frequencies <= 33 MHz and > 33 MHz. I assumed 33.3 was > 33 so I set the switch accordingly. When I changed its position everything worked, but the system still wouldn't boot from C:. I went back and re-partitioned the disk, re-formatted and reinstalled the OS, and at that point I was able to boot from C:

    Back to installing OS/2. This time the installation process halted with a message that the country information in A:\Country.sys was wrong and needed to be corrected. Wha? Country.sys exists (on "Diskette for CD-ROM) but I have no idea what the expected value is. And it's a binary file. So I'm stuck!

    Any (pertinent) suggestions?

    Thanks for your replies.

    -CH-

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    https://web.archive.org/web/19970723...ney/note9.html

    If double checking the CMOS does not work, you may need a DTC specific set of drivers for OS/2. Failing on COUNTRY.SYS is a bit of an illusion; COUNTRY.SYS is the first file OS/2 attempts to read after switching to OS/2 supplied drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krebizfan View Post
    https://web.archive.org/web/19970723...ney/note9.html

    If double checking the CMOS does not work, you may need a DTC specific set of drivers for OS/2. Failing on COUNTRY.SYS is a bit of an illusion; COUNTRY.SYS is the first file OS/2 attempts to read after switching to OS/2 supplied drivers.
    Rats! I will double-check BIOS but I suspect the issue will be that there is no hard drive in the BIOS list. I have a disk of DTC-specific drivers, furnished by the manufacturer. I'm guessing they would have to be included in the CONFIG.SYS file or whatever it is OS/2 uses in its place.

    The drivers furnished by DTC are for DOS and for Novell, neither of which may be appropriate for OS/2. I checked some of the on-line sources you cited; didn't find anything exactly (or nearly) appropriate. But I'll keep looking and let you know if I find something.

    Thanks for your reply,

    -CH-

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