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    Quote Originally Posted by rpiguy2 View Post
    I wonder which version of the VIC...
    VIC-II
    ...and VDC it uses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VERAULT View Post
    And that is why I havent prioritized repairing my C128....... IT works in C64 mode... so it works. 'nuff said
    I don't know that there's a better CP/M machine than a C128.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC9UDX View Post
    I don't know that there's a better CP/M machine than a C128.
    I wish that were true, but in reality they were pretty slow in CP/M mode, although there are a few replacement BIOS's that speed it up a little.

    Having said that, lots of business did buy them purely as a cheap CP/M machine. One thing I really liked is that the 1571 disk drive could read so many different formats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC9UDX View Post
    I don't know that there's a better CP/M machine than a C128.
    Disk access aside?

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    Seems pretty slow as a CP/M machine...especially next to my ADAM.

    I wonder if it has the distinction of being the last commercially produced CP/M machine?

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    As long as there is a home brew community that moniker wont last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERAULT View Post
    As long as there is a home brew community that moniker wont last long.
    Granted, anyone with the skills to do so could make a CP/M machine. I'm just wondering aloud if it was the last mass-produced one.

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    Dont know, when did CP/M die off from mainstream use? 1986? Im sure there were smaller named computers. Even Kaypro probably sold a CP/M machine till the last possible minute

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERAULT View Post
    Dont know, when did CP/M die off from mainstream use? 1986? Im sure there were smaller named computers. Even Kaypro probably sold a CP/M machine till the last possible minute
    I believe WordStar 4.0 was the last mainstream application to have a CP/M version, released in 1987. By 1984-1985 most people and businesses were already jumping ship from CP/M to PC/MS-DOS. Kaypro was the last holdout selling CP/M machines, which they discontinued in 1986.

    The C128 wasn't really meant to have the Z80 CPU or CP/M capability. In development they discovered that it was incompatible with the C64's CP/M cartridge, so the "fix" was to simply build the Z80 CPU into the machine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwestlife View Post
    The C128 wasn't really meant to have the Z80 CPU or CP/M capability. In development they discovered that it was incompatible with the C64's CP/M cartridge, so the "fix" was to simply build the Z80 CPU into the machine!
    That is some crazy right there. I've read a few things about Commodore, but I really don't understand why they made some of the decisions they did.

    The MAX system with 2KB as a predecessor of the C64? Why? Did they think it would be a cartridge only machine and that 2K was enough scratch ram for a cartridge?

    I don't understand the C128 either. I remember wanting one, but it seems like too much compatibility and not enough of something new.

    And why all the models? They seemed to go model crazy.

    I fully admit to not knowing what I am talking about when it comes to Commodore though. First computer was a VIC-20 and my dad bought the C64 at some point later. I remember that first $8 single sided single density floppy disk and the 1541 though!

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