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    I want this particular machine to be able to play games from 95 through 97-98 basically. I could go with a P2-233, but I dont want this machine being much faster than that.

    If I went P2-233, I could still go with the Voodoo1 or I could use a Voodoo2 I have and pair it with a RIVA 128, TNT, or TNT2 Card in the system. Just want to be able to get that range of games playable in the best way on this machine.
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    If your games support OpenGL/Direct3d the TNT2 will easily outperform a Voodoo 1. If the games only support 3dfx then you will obviously need the Voodoo 1.

    Personally I would go with a Voodoo 2 - they are a much better performer plus you can pick up two and run them in SLI configuration. In my PII system I found that using Voodoo II's in SLI gave me about the same performance as the TNT2 card I also had installed. I only used it for a while though; at the end of the day the TNT2 with 32 MB of RAM was just as good so I put the Voodoo's back into a P200 system without an AGP slot (running a S3 2d card of some description).

    Only problem these days is that Voodoo 2 cards are getting expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smack2k View Post
    I want this particular machine to be able to play games from 95 through 97-98 basically. I could go with a P2-233, but I dont want this machine being much faster than that.

    If I went P2-233, I could still go with the Voodoo1 or I could use a Voodoo2 I have and pair it with a RIVA 128, TNT, or TNT2 Card in the system. Just want to be able to get that range of games playable in the best way on this machine.
    Sometimes you end up needing more then 1 machine.

    I have a P3-500 TNT2 + Voodoo2 SLI for some games, and a P233MMX Riva 128 + Voodoo 1, plus a dozen other systems that go back to a 5150 + CGA up to a FX-8350 + RX580.

    Yes some of these cards are getting harder to find and cost a few dollars, but that is just going to get worse not better so pick what you want and use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smack2k View Post
    I want this particular machine to be able to play games from 95 through 97-98 basically. I could go with a P2-233, but I dont want this machine being much faster than that.

    If I went P2-233, I could still go with the Voodoo1 or I could use a Voodoo2 I have and pair it with a RIVA 128, TNT, or TNT2 Card in the system. Just want to be able to get that range of games playable in the best way on this machine.
    The Voodoo1 is really only good for the older DOS Glide titles and early Windows 95 titles because it has such a low maximum resolution. At best you'll get 512x384, or 640x480 if the game doesn't use a Z buffer due to the limited frame buffer memory. There were some rare 6 and 8 MB variants that allowed normal 640x480 operation, but you'll be hard pressed to find one these days.

    A Voodoo2 would be a better choice since it offers a maximum resolution of 800x600 or 1024x768 in SLi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown_K View Post
    Sometimes you end up needing more then 1 machine.

    I have a P3-500 TNT2 + Voodoo2 SLI for some games, and a P233MMX Riva 128 + Voodoo 1, plus a dozen other systems that go back to a 5150 + CGA up to a FX-8350 + RX580.

    Yes some of these cards are getting harder to find and cost a few dollars, but that is just going to get worse not better so pick what you want and use it.
    I have multiple machines setup. I had at one time 15 of them setup in my retro garage and running various setups...but I toned it down to 7 now, 3 of which are newer builds (2008 and forward), but of the four retro machines I have running, I have a Voodoo2 SLI setup with a ti4600 in a PIII Tualitin for end of 90's, early 2K stuff (not really relevant for this forum) but that is my Voodoo2 setup. For this particular machine, I currently have a Voodoo1 in there with a Quadro 256. I know the Quadro is way overkill for it, so wanted to back it down somewhat but leave the Voodoo1 running in it. I may upgrade the Diamond Voodoo1 I have in it to a Canopus Voodoo1 if I can get the pass-through cable for the Canopus working, but other than that, had planned to leave the Voodoo1 in it. I have another Voodoo2 single card I could toss in it, but really wanting to leave the Voodoo1 for that era.....but now reading this thinking I may toss the Voodoo2 in it and pair it with a TNT or TNT2 which should cover that era of gaming....
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    Pentium 200 MMX was just before AGP came to fashion. You can combine the Voodoo 1 or Voodoo 2 (even dual Voodoo 2) with Pentium 200 MMX on a No-AGP PCI board, BabyAT mainboard with any PCI graphics card of that era, for example ATI Mach 64 or Rage XL, or Matrox Millenium or some kind of S3 cards. I was running my Voodoo 1 with a graphics card with an graphic controller from IBM, maybe I still have that card still somewhere...? That IBM card had good resolution and driver in Windows 3.11 and 95. Later I combined two pieces of Voodoo 2 with RIVA 128 AGP card, swapped to Riva TNT and TNT2, upgrading also CPU from AMD K6-2-300 to 450 (both on MSI MS-5269 Ali Aladdin Chipset) and then Athlon 500 and then 750 (MSI MS-6167 with AMD 740 chipset (AMD "fester" reference design). That last described machine, MS-6167, with 2x Voodoo 2, Riva TNT2 and Athlon 750 is still in my storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ST1 View Post
    Pentium 200 MMX was just before AGP came to fashion.
    Both AGP and the Pentium MMX were released the same year. However, it wasn't until a year later that Intel released a chipset (i440LX) that actually supported it. 3rd party chipset vendors, however, did have AGP chipsets before Intel released theirs.

    I wouldn't recommend dual Voodoo2s on a Pentium MMX, the CPU isn't fast enough to drive both cards at the same time.

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    Matrox AGP cards are pretty fun for Win9x since they (some of them anyway) can do stupidly new things like push 1080p in Win95.
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