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    Hi,

    Please be tolerant of a newbie to vintage. I am trying to get a PC-XT running. It has an MFM that sounds exactly like a Kenwood Chef, with bolts in the bowl, so it will not likely be long for this world. It has MS DOS 2.0 on it. I have tried getting a fairly fresh ST-225 to work with it, but Debug has accepted no combination of G=CXXX:XXX type commands G=C800:800 appeared to be 'winning' and then asked me for a lot of detailed commands that I can't find the data to set up the ST-225 for. Route 1 terminated there. A horrid shame since I think the ST-225 is in pretty fair nick.

    Route 2 IT-IDE Rev 1 card with CF add on. Okay, the motherboard sees the XT-IDE as it should, but getting it to initialise the CF card. I run out of knowledge. It has me beaten.

    Can anyone give me a suggestion suitable for a small child, or a golden retriever, to understand how to get the damnable CF card initialised? Please?

    I have thrown cash at this nostalgia box, big time. What it takes, it takes. But it IS going to work. I may well hate it with a passion by then, but it will work!

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    What is the controller you are trying to use for this?

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    You don't need to initialize the CF card like you do an ST-225, just boot the system, then fdisk/format /s as always.

    It might help troubleshooting if you don't have both hard drives/controllers installed at the same time. Try to get the XT-IDE working first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyT View Post
    Route 2 IT-IDE Rev 1 card with CF add on. Okay, the motherboard sees the XT-IDE as it should, but getting it to initialise the CF card. I run out of knowledge. It has me beaten.

    Can anyone give me a suggestion suitable for a small child, or a golden retriever, to understand how to get the damnable CF card initialised? Please?

    I have thrown cash at this nostalgia box, big time. What it takes, it takes. But it IS going to work. I may well hate it with a passion by then, but it will work!
    Make sure you're using a recent version of XTIDE Universal BIOS. Then boot from a MS-DOS version 5 (or newer) boot disk and run FDISK /MBR.
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    An MFM st225 doesn't need a controller bios..It's a standard drive type 2 and should work fine with the CMOS. Select type 2 then low level format with software, fdisk and dos format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norm8332 View Post
    An MFM st225 doesn't need a controller bios..It's a standard drive type 2 and should work fine with the CMOS. Select type 2 then low level format with software, fdisk and dos format.
    XT class machines generally do not have any hard disk support built in and do require a controller BIOS.
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    Oh, I had an XT clone and it had a cmos setup accessed with a software program from floppy, but I wasn't sure about IBM boards. Now I know for sure. Thanks.\

    My MFM controller from an IBM 5150 has dip switches to select a st225 (62x0766).
    Last edited by norm8332; August 7th, 2018 at 08:41 PM.

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    Thank you for the assistance in your replies. (Yes, it's been a bit of a gap I know.) The XT put up a sterling fight and in the end the biggest problems seemed to actually be caused by MS-DOS 3 and a failing floppy (which wasn't immediately obvious was causing problems) which were making the whole process almost impossible. After jettisoning the original 5.25 in favour of a new 3.5, and reverting to DOS 5.0, the plan came together. Finally. Now the XT seems to run slightly better than my Tandon 286, with a Compact Flash. Which I guess is as good as it's getting!

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