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    Default HGA(graphic hercules) games = ?

    Hi, people !

    At last assembled a 286 with a HGA - but there are too few games to run with a HGA... I know only : F-19,F-15, Stunts, Grand_Prix(198,Prince of Persia, ...

    Maybe there are some more I dont know ? Or any dems ? I have to show my collection to people on 14-15th on a expo on a IT conference - HGA machine will be there, too...

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    I don't think there are that many. Many will run with/as CGA emulation, but it's not native. This was mostly a business "productivity" card.

    It seems like the Sierra adventure games supported it directly, but I could be mis-remembering and it was CGA emulation also.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY2oKR_EtfY

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    https://www.mobygames.com/attribute/...attributeId,4/

    You can find Hercules supported game list.

    I also have a lot of IBM PC games that supports Hercules mode is not listed on Mobygames.

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    As already mentioned, there's plenty of games with HGC support, but vast majority of them actually uses 320x200 CGA graphics, stretched into 640x200 or 640x300, so they don't look very good.
    However, there's a few with native HGC 720x348 graphics - I especially recommend Blockout, and Spacewar is also nice - http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/ibmpc/spwar171.arc
    You can also try Prehistorik, doesn't seem to use 720x348, but still looks OK.

    If you want demos, then the only "true" demo with HGC graphics I saw was "3 shades of gray", though I'm not sure if it runs on a 286, I vaguelly recall some troubles running it, maybe it was for 8088 only.
    But there's always the BGIDEMO from TP/BP.

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    I suppose we are mainly talking about action type games, but don't forget that Microsoft Windows 1.x to 3.1 support Hercules Monographics. So many Windows games may work, although some may be hard coded to expect color or specific screen sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeGuy View Post
    I suppose we are mainly talking about action type games, but don't forget that Microsoft Windows 1.x to 3.1 support Hercules Monographics.
    Microsoft provided Hercules Monochrome driver for Windows 3.11 as well, though as a separate download.
    And yes, it's possible to play Minesweeper, Solitaire, Windows Entertainment Pack games, and more.

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    The Mobygames data is good, but not perfect, you can't entirely trust that list.

    BTW, I have just noticed that someone has made a Mobygames entry for my little Hercules game H-Tron.

    Quote Originally Posted by rittwage View Post
    I don't think there are that many. Many will run with/as CGA emulation, but it's not native.
    I wouldn't call that "emulation". To my knowledge these games directly produce Hercules screen output, but the developers just didn't want to invest the time to re-arrange the game screen layout for a perfect 720x348 picture. So they simply displayed the 320x200 CGA graphics in 640x200, resulting in a vertically squashed screen. For some games, horizontal blank "scan lines" were added to blow up the screen height, but that doesn't really look good either.

    The Sierra games have proper Hercules support. Some of them (I think at least Space Quest 2) even use a different font for text display in Hercules mode.

    Here is a list of games that I have successfully tested on my Hercules hardware. I have marked those with "lazy" Hercules support (see above) with asterisks.

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    Afterburner (*)
    Airborne Ranger
    Arkanoid 2
    Avoid the Noid
    Bad Cat
    Blockout
    Budokan
    California Games (*) or (**)?
    Carrier Command
    Carlos Sainz (**)
    Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Simulator
    Fire and Forget (**)
    Future Wars (**)
    Hard Drivin (**)
    Hard Drivin 2 (**)
    Jumpjet
    King's Quest
    King's Quest 2
    Leisure Suit Larry
    Motocross
    North & South (**)
    PipeMania
    Platoon
    Powerdrome
    Police Quest
    Prince of Persia (**)
    Psion Chess
    Rock'n Roll
    Space Quest 2
    Space Quest 3
    Starflight (**)
    Street Rod
    Super Hangon
    Test Drive (*)
    Test Drive 2 (*)
    The Train
    Titus the Fox (***)
    Ultima 5
    Vegi
    Wings of Fury (*) or (**)?
    Xenon 2
    Zeliard
    
    
    (*) Full screen format with added "scan lines"
    (**) Screen does not have full height
    (***) Frequency problem on my Hercules monitor

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertK View Post
    The Mobygames data is good, but not perfect, you can't entirely trust that list.
    Because the data is wrong, or because the data is incomplete? If the latter, that's not really a fair assessment, since the complete list of games that support Hercules graphics can never truly be verified.

    Some additional games not previously mentioned that support the full resolution of 720x348 are Microsoft Flight Simulator 3.0 and 4.0, and The Colony.
    Offering a bounty for:
    - The software "Overhead Express" (doesn't have to be original, can be a copy)
    - A working Sanyo MBC-775, Olivetti M24, or Logabax 1600
    - Documentation and original disks for: Panasonic Sr. Partner, Zenith Z-160 series
    - Music Construction Set, IBM Music Feature edition (has red sticker on front stating IBM Music Feature)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixter View Post
    Because the data is wrong, or because the data is incomplete?
    Both. Some are listed as Hercules-compatible although they are not, and some of the games that I listed above lack the Hercules support flag. I think I should post my research results on the Mobygames forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trixter View Post
    Microsoft Flight Simulator 3.0 and 4.0
    For some reason, I only get a black screen after I start one of these two games on my Euro PC (while I can hear the Cessna's engine sound). But I know of other people that they enjoyed playing these on a Hercules PC.

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