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    Default Help for beginners / new users

    New ATARI 8-bit owners (or those that need advice) should subscribe to the newsgroup: comp.sys.atari.8bit
    This is the most active newsgroup on the net, and is regularly visited by many very experienced ATARI users.
    Look for the message "Welcome to comp.sys.atari.8bit" from Michael Current, and try out some of the links.
    The link to the FAQ's (under Information) is the most useful one for beginners.

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    "atari-man" wroute:

    > This is the most active newsgroup on
    > the net, and is regularly visited by
    > many very experienced ATARI users.

    Could you send them here too?

    We need more experienced ATARI users
    here as well.

    Cheers,
    CP/M User.

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    It would be nice if more Atari owners were posting questions here.
    I've been an Atari freak many years now initially because of the STs
    reputation in the music community. I was a fervent user of the TAF BBS
    in the early years trying to get as much info as possible on using my Atari STF. And fending off accusations of "cheapness" since I was using a Supra 2400 modem (I had paid $100 for it). by the sys-op when his sights were on 14400 modems and I had dared to complain about his configurations.
    I fervently awaited each monthly publication (and the around $10 cost which I could ill-afford) of the 3 main Atari ST mags with their s-w sample disks. My main Atari now is a Mega 4 ST with which I use mainly a Syquest
    SCSI EZ 135.

    My Atari ST led me to "just" collecting Atari's and then to wider collecting, the ramifications of which still afflict me. But it was Sam Tramiel who first
    inflicted this upon me And as he sits comfortably aging in his mansion on the California coast garnered from his sale to Hasbro, I say the mantra of
    all Atari (and Commodore ?) addicts

    CURSE YOU, TRAMIEL, CURSE YOU.

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    "Micom 2000" wrote:

    > My Atari ST led me to "just" collecting Atari's and
    > then to wider collecting, the ramifications of which
    > still afflict me.

    As an Atari user, do you hate the way Atari treat machines
    like their consoles & early machines? Or are you more into
    their later machines?

    I have an Atari 2600 & 7800, while the 2600 got many
    games, the later can't be said for the 7800 (even though
    it can play 2600 games). The Atari XE (a computerized
    version of the 7800), was dumped from Atari when 16bits
    seemed to be the next best thing. Course their ST was
    the first thing out, it might be a nice machine, but for
    people who owned a XE, I've got this impression that Atari
    bined it all too soon. 3RD party software companies didn't
    seem to support it (well not the ones who did software for
    the C64, Spectrum, CPC). In my impression the XE is better
    than a CPC for games, due to it's hardware compatibilities.

    Cheers,
    CP/M User.

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    Thanks for that link, gents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by atari-man
    New ATARI 8-bit owners (or those that need advice) should subscribe to the newsgroup: comp.sys.atari.8bit
    This is the most active newsgroup on the net, and is regularly visited by many very experienced ATARI users.
    Look for the message "Welcome to comp.sys.atari.8bit" from Michael Current, and try out some of the links.
    The link to the FAQ's (under Information) is the most useful one for beginners.
    Newsgroups? Blah... Google can keep its "groups", message boards like this and the Atari computer forums on atariage.com are far more friendly and much more useful and productive.



    Curt
    Curt Vendel
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    http://www.atarimuseum.com

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    "Postal Patron" wrote:

    > Here's the website:
    > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/atari-8-bit/welcome/

    I knew there was a reason as to why I don't go there:

    Quoted from that link is this passage of text:

    Welcome to the comp.sys.atari.8bit newsgroup!

    You've found the Usenet newsgroup for discussion about the Atari 8-bit
    family of computers! These include the 400, 800, 1200XL, 600XL, 800XL,
    65XE, 130XE, 800XE, and the XE Game System. Atari (based in Silicon Valley,
    California, USA) produced this line of computers from 1979-1992.
    If they aren't prepared to show support for the consoles, then I won't have any discussion's there.

    Instead they do this:

    RELATED NEWSGROUPS:
    alt.binaries.atari
    alt.binaries.atari.d
    alt.binaries.comp.atari8bit
    comp.emulators.misc
    comp.emulators.announce Moderated.
    comp.sys.atari.advocacy
    comp.sys.atari.announce Moderated by Kevin Savetz.
    `- comp.sys.atari.announce Web Page: http://www.atariarchives.org/csaa/
    comp.sys.atari.programmer
    rec.games.video.atari
    rec.games.video.classic
    While Atari 2600s, 5200s & 7800s are consoles, they are still 8bit systems. It generally troubles me that the XE games system is accepted.

    CP/M User.

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    As an old Atari user and the owner of an Atari EXGS
    and considering the # of 2600, 5200, and 7800s that were sold
    it is perfectly understandable.

    The focus of the newsgroup was on computers, not gaming systems.
    It would have been completely swamped with questions about the
    latest games, cheats, and why their cartridge wasn't working on their
    2600. C'mon it has been an outstanding forum for 8-bit Ataris for years.
    One of the most successfull newsgroups on the internet. Would you
    have liked it or would members of Comp.sys.cpm tolerated any successful CPM games from dominating its group ?

    There used to be many other newsgroups dedicated to 8-bit game
    machines, so their inclusion on the group would have only served to
    drive the people who loved it as a computer medium away.

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    "Micom 2000" wrote:

    > As an old Atari user and the owner of an Atari EXGS
    > and considering the # of 2600, 5200, and 7800s that were sold
    > it is perfectly understandable.

    The main concern of those machines is the Atari 2600 (or VCS), it was the one of Atari's Strengths, while the 5200 is a reasonible console, it didn't share the support for 2600 games - which lead to the 7800 which did & though didn't have many of it's own games. Numbers would have been drawn to the 2600 though - but so what Numbers are good because it boost's knowledge.

    > The focus of the newsgroup was on computers, not gaming systems.

    So it would be a shock to know that an 7800 -could- be developed into a serious computer system with Keyboard & Disk Drive, aparantly is was quite an extradinary feat which was done when the 7800 was reasonibly new (unforunately it didn't last & I believe it was a 3rd party who developed this).

    > It would have been completely swamped with questions about the
    > latest games, cheats, and why their cartridge wasn't working on their
    > 2600. C'mon it has been an outstanding forum for 8-bit Ataris for years.
    > One of the most successfull newsgroups on the internet. Would you
    > have liked it or would members of Comp.sys.cpm tolerated any
    > successful CPM games from dominating its group ?

    The issue of any successful games being developed on CP/M would have created a sub-group indicating it's a group for a discussion about a game for CP/M. As it is, we get many people from different CP/M Systems discussing in there & we generally except that since we know they have no place else to go (except perhaps alt.computers.folklore - which is full of many people from many backgrounds). But I see having those groups as a mean's of having a community which visit out of interest & build knowledge for what they know, not some group devised of one guy who runs the show & his community members. I feel that people who have questions should also share their knowledge for those in need of it.

    > There used to be many other newsgroups dedicated to 8-bit game
    > machines, so their inclusion on the group would have only served to
    > drive the people who loved it as a computer medium away.

    I see having too many groups creates more fragmentation, you get people here, people there & people who don't even know where to go! I agree that when something in the newgroups name doesn't add up, they don't essentially belong, this works in the case of comp.sys.amstrad.8bit. People assumed that IBM based Amstrad's were a part of this group, since they had no knowledge about the 8bit Amstrads, fair mistake. I guess there's this funny way of thinking that games consoles are a part of Recretation, but for some reason it doesn't feel like it! ;-)

    Hence my disapproval for these groups:
    rec.games.video.atari
    rec.games.video.classic

    CP/M User.

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