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    Question What is the best web browser?

    Hello. I was wondering what you guys' opinion on this was. I remember back when the internet was good I used Internet Explorer. But it became buggier and buggier with the increasingly ugly websites and some eventually blocked you from accessing their ugly websites with it, which was very nice and smart (sarcasm).
    So I started using Google Chrome, which took insane amounts of memory but worked with all websites and didn't take all of your computer's processing power like Mozilla Firefox did. But Chrome also got buggier with each new update. First Java broke with it, and more recently Adobe Flash Player broke. And what's incredible is that I think to this day they still haven't fixed those two gigantic problems. They're probably too busy with making sure their software is as ugly and dysfunctional as possible.
    So I started using Mozilla Firefox. It looks like they fixed the CPU-usage problem to a point that the browser can now be used, but now it takes as much memory as Chrome. But worse than that, Java and Adobe Flash Player also broke with it. I think Java is completely broken, but I managed to make Flash Player work on some websites, though it is very buggy. A "lego" icon keeps appearing as if there was a problem, and sometimes I have to refresh pages to make it work. Like the brain-dead fools at Google, it seems like those huge issues aren't very high on Mozilla's "programmers" team stuff-to-fix list. There's more. I am now finding many websites that do not work properly if you don't remove the "S" from HTTP in the URL. I think it's Google's search engine fault though, but a web browser that automatically removes this HTTPS cancer from the URL would be very nice. Maybe it can be done with Firefox, but it is so darn horrible nowadays that I'd rather not use it at all.

    So what would you say is the best web browser to use today?

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    Mostly, it doesn't matter. Most, including Firefox and Opera use the Chrome engine.

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    They're all terrible in different ways, except when they're all terrible in the same ways. But I'm a fan of Pale Moon - it's a Firefox fork that murders Mozilla's terrible UI revamps and keeps it on the relative sanity of the pre-Australis interface and generally tightens things up a bit.
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    I'm not a Vindows user; does anyone use K-meleon?

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    K-Meleon was my go-to for years. I don't think it's actually been updated since the days when HTML5 was new, but it was a noticeably lighter-weight alternative to Firefox back in the day.
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    I use 64 bit Pale Moon religiously. Doesn't run out of memory ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post
    They're all terrible in different ways, except when they're all terrible in the same ways.
    Thats certainly true. I was a netscape navigator then firefox supporter... but Firefox today is progressively garbage. Huge resource hog that crashes on most of my computers. People always rave about Chrome but I cannot stand the UI. Im a creature of habit and a webbrowser should be simple and seamless... It worked throughout the 90's into the 2000's with little to no problems, they are all awful now.

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    I use Pale Moon with the Moonscape addon and Netscape icon pack.
    Its a rather nice browser, but I wish it had better addon support and and was more upto date.
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    Ever since Opera died and the last good version of Firefox (3.6) ceased being viable, I've used the latest compatible "stable" version of SeaMonkey on all my systems. It's a win-win scenario: You get the rendering capabilities of Mozilla Firefox while paring away Mozilla's last 15 years of UI devolution. I suppose Pale Moon might have some of the same advantages, but given the attitudes of their developers, I'm not tempted to support them.

    I'll always be resentful of how Microsoft ruined the security and performance of Windows by shoehorning IE4 into the shell and help system in the quest of cutting off Netscape's air supply...but though grudges die hard, Internet Explorer doesn't make my blood boil like it used to.
    Nowadays, the browser that I loathe more than any other is Chrome.

    Chrome completely craps on 30 years of interface conventions by re-inventing its own UI. It updates itself automatically without consent, which is malicious by design. It kicked off the ruinous "rapid release" philosophy that Mozilla and Microsoft co-opted in a race to the bottom, and was the second major software product (after MS Office) to burn bridges with Windows 2000 users. Google has also taken a page out of Microsoft's ActiveX/MSHTML playbook by playing "embrace, extend, extinguish" with established standards like RSS, HTTP, and plugins, and "optimizing" their own web services to work worse with non-Chrome browsers. About the only saving grace of Chrome is that it's not a "mandatory component" of computer systems yet, but then again I don't use an Android phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew T. View Post
    About the only saving grace of Chrome is that it's not a "mandatory component" of computer systems yet, but then again I don't use an Android phone.
    It's not mandatory there, either. With Android, nothing is mandatory.
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