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    Default Windows 10 still free for Windows 7 users!

    In my vintage computer shack I had (until the weekend) a Windows 7 machine I used primarily as my gateway to the Internet out there. I declined the free Windows 10 upgrade nag that went around when Win 10 first arrived, not wanting to upset things with a new (possibly buggy) version of the OS. It's now a few years later and, from what I'd read, Windows 7 would soon start nagging me again as it moves towards end-of-life. In addition, I'm a lot more familiar with Windows 10 now, having two other Windows 10 computers inside the house.

    I reluctantly decided to bite the bullet and investigate updating to Windows 10.

    One annoyance was that upgrading was now going to cost me. About $US 290 for Windows 10 Pro to replace my Windows 7 Pro (at least going by prices on the Microsoft New Zealand site). However, once I started looking, I found a few articles suggesting that although the upgrade for free offer wasn't being promoted..it may be still there for valid Windows 7 owners! (see https://www.techsupportall.com/upgra...-even-in-2018/) . I thought, "What they hey, why not give it a go". I could always roll back to Win 7 if my original activation key didn't work.

    Well, the upgrade did work! It didn't even ask me for the activation key as I expected. I now have a full version of Windows 10 Pro on my little pizza box HP.

    What's more, everything works and it seems even faster than the Windows 7 version that was there! The only negative was the crapware promotion apps that were installed (*sigh*), but these were easily uninstalled. One or two (like Film and TV) can't be uninstalled but these are just ignored.

    I'm happy.

    Tez
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    Tez, sorry to be so dense today--it must be springtime (here, anyway).

    Why on earth would I want to swap my Win7 for Win10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    Tez, sorry to be so dense today--it must be springtime (here, anyway).

    Why on earth would I want to swap my Win7 for Win10?
    What you should try if you can get a hold of it, is Windows 10 LTSB

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    No need to swap it.

    Install it on another drive, partition or machine... for free.
    PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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    I'll think about it.

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    Me too... I'm gonna add another drive to my WIN7 machine.
    PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    No need to swap it.

    Install it on another drive, partition or machine... for free.
    It's not free though.

    You're trading a Windows 7 license for a Windows 10 license.

    That's a bad deal if you ask me since Windows 10 is worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGaBiTe View Post
    It's not free though.

    You're trading a Windows 7 license for a Windows 10 license.

    That's a bad deal if you ask me since Windows 10 is worthless.
    I realize this is a 'vintage' forum, but I'm not clear why the hate for Windows 10 other than the usual 'Why do i need something new when the old thing works fine' (which is what my dad tells my mom whenever she tries to get him to 'upgrade' his flip phone).

    I run Windows 98 on machines because I need DOS ability, and I run XP on machines because I need certain driver support that wasn't available on later machines (in fact, I just built a Win 98/XP dual boot machine for Retro use). I actually get why folks would stick with those versions, earlier versions, or no microsoft products at all (maybe you just want to use retro software, or you hate microsoft, or whatever), but I don't get why you would use windows 7 over Windows 10 on your current 'modern' machine. It's got all the same complaints you might have with a new OS and none of the benefits. The only thing I feel would be worse is to use Windows 8 (specifically because they moved everything around and switched it to a tablet OS before they fixed some of the problems with 8.1 and the rest with 10).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ngtwolf View Post
    I realize this is a 'vintage' forum, but I'm not clear why the hate for Windows 10
    There are several reasons.

    Windows 10 still has the remnants of the "Metro" UI disaster that was Windows 8. One small example, if you try to open a file that has no file association, a dialog box appears asking if you want Microsoft download a program to open it with - but there is no "close" or "cancel" button or any visible way to dismiss the dialog. You have to click OUTSIDE the dialog to make it go away, unlike any normal dialog.

    With Windows 10, Microsoft now likes to re-arrange the UI after every update, possibly even removing features. Many people, especially businesses, need a UI and OS that does not completely change at random times. At the moment, Windows 7 does not change as much.

    Microsoft has even shown their disdain for users by using the Windows 10 "lock screen" for advertising.

    Windows 7 gives better control over updates, although Microsoft has pushed their "telemetry" spyware available on Windows 7 as well.

    There is also the more common matter that some software/drivers that runs under Windows 7 may not run under Windows 10.

    Anyway, I'm not too surprised the "upgrade" is still available. I guess you don't even have to futz/hack with anything. I was thinking that in a worst case, one might have to use the build where they added the upgrade option, disconnect from the internet, set set the clock back, install, set the clock forwards, reconnect, and then it just looks like a machine that was upgraded within the timeframe or recently restored from a backup but not activated yet. Point is, it is not quite that easy for them to close this door even if they wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyonadmiral View Post
    What you should try if you can get a hold of it, is Windows 10 LTSB
    I gave that a try, wile its better then the regular version of 10 it still has alot of UI bugs.

    None of the problems are really a big deal, but add them up and it gets quite annoying.
    To me windows 10 feels like it's still in the later Beta phase of development and still need some more work, hopefully once windows 7 support is dropped the bugs in 10 will be fixed.
    Last edited by Mr. Horse; March 25th, 2019 at 07:14 AM.
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