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    I have an old IDE HDD with 210 MB capacity. I'd like to copy some of the files over to my new Windows 10 computer and be able to create a backup image of the hard drive and store it on my new computer. However, when I connect the hard drive to my IDE to USB converter (I am using a StarTech UNIDOCKU33 dock: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...82E16817707380) Windows 10 does not even recognize the device when it is connected. Is there some good software that should enable me to do this? Or do I need to change my hardware as well?

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    I think it's called "Linux" and "dd" There are also Linux-based tools specifically for drive cloning, such as Clonezilla, which boot from a pen drive or CD.

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    +1 for Clonezilla
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    If I recall correctly, those IDE to USB adapters don't support CHS-only drives, they require LBA (or it might be an ATA protocol revision compatiblity issue). A 210MB would be just a bit before that.

    You might have better luck with IDE-SATA converters, just keep in mind some cheaper converters were so low quality they didn't even work right.

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    IDE-SATA adapters generally are better than the reverse. Avoid the "dual personality" ones--I've never found any that don't have issues.

    But bottom line, there's no real substitute for a "tweener" PC.

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    So, one, id connect the USB to ide directly to the computer, not though a dock. Second, go into Windows partition manager and make sure it sees it and it's not just showing up without a driver letter. Once you do get it working, win32 disk imager is a good way free easy way to clone just about anything, especially stuff that isn't fat file system (including things with no file system like SCSI2SD devices).
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    Clonezilla has the interesting feature of being able to resize partitions, if desired. Otherwise, plain old dd will do a sector-for-sector copy.

    But the point is being made that a non-LBA drive may not be recognized by a USB adapter. I think that's a valid consideration.

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    But bottom line, there's no real substitute for a "tweener" PC.
    I agree absolutely. Other methods are not nearly as reliable or straight forward.
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    Consider that non-LBA capable drives went out of fashion about, what, 25 years ago? (The capability of supporting CHS addressing was kept for quite a few more years, but that's not my point. Besides, for most IDE drives, except for the very early ones, it's a convenient fiction, having nothing to do with actual drive geometry.)

    Now consider that the USB mass-storage device model is very similar to that of SCSI--that is, it's strictly LBA.

    So, if you were writing the firmware for an IDE-to-USB adapter, would you bother adding the code for CHS-only drives?

    If so, why?

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    Would an older (pre Symantec) version of Ghost work?
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