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Thread: VCF West attendance data?

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    Default VCF West attendance data?

    Hey folks,

    I had a great time at VCF West this year, and was wondering if we know how many tickets were sold.

    Regards,
    Alex Perez
    WB6ALX

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    Quote Originally Posted by aperezbios View Post
    Hey folks,

    I had a great time at VCF West this year, and was wondering if we know how many tickets were sold.

    Regards,
    Alex Perez
    WB6ALX
    It will take a few days to get it figured out. Remember some people purchased ahead of time over the web. My guess is a little over 1K total for both days.
    Dwight

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    Well, we're not going to publish the exact figures. That is proprietary.

    But we'll probably have an estimate/round number soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanK View Post
    Well, we're not going to publish the exact figures. That is proprietary.
    ...why in the world?

    Quote Originally Posted by EvanK View Post
    But we'll probably have an estimate/round number soon.
    That's all I was looking for.

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    I'm not a particular fan of the word "proprietary" and I wish Evan had not been so blunt. We generally don't share details like that but I think it's safe to let you know that we were well over 1,100 visitors for the weekend. It was very busy on Saturday and pretty busy on Sunday, so we are happy.

    Keep in mind that doesn't include exhibitors, volunteers, museum staff, speakers, and people we handed out VIP badges too because they were helping out in some way.


    Mike

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    proprietary in a Non-profit does not seem to fit..
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    Honestly I don't think it's a big deal to disclose the exact attendance numbers, but I won't because that's a decision the board of directors should be making as a group; it is not for any single one of us to disclose that without having a consensus. But I think that stating we had over 1100+ visitors gives a good enough answer to the question. Which is why I think Evan chose his words poorly; it's not about proprietary, it's about not shooting off one's mouth without checking with the group first.

    Just to clear some possible misconceptions up ...

    Vintage Computer Federation is a registered 501c3 which makes us except from Federal taxes. I think we are listed as an educational organization. Doing the paperwork to be a 501c3 exempts us from federal income tax and allows us to accept donations. We use the donations in the physical museum in Wall, NJ or to cover operating expenses for the museum and the events. We have rules for corporate governance and a board of directors. If any one person quits the organization continues on.

    If you want to see hard numbers, we have summary fiscal results posted at http://vcfed.org/wp/financial-information/ .

    If you think about the expense of running an event, a lot of the expenses are not being recorded because VCFed doesn't see them. For example, at least four people flew to Mountain View and paid for hotels and food on their own time just to volunteer at the event. None of that expense is reported; people are just eating that personally. When we have to pay for professional services we usually get it at a discount due to personal relationships. We also borrow equipment and provide our own personal equipment to keep costs down.

    For those of you near VCF East, VCF West or VCF PNW - consider volunteering at an event the next time it comes around. That will give you a better mental picture of what goes on.

    And don't forget what the 20 to 35 exhibitors and speakers throw in from their own travel expenses ...
    Last edited by mbbrutman; August 7th, 2019 at 01:38 PM.

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