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    My ibm ps/1 2133 has the original 129mb hard drive. I decided to get a cf card to act as a hard drive. I got dos installed, but when i tried to copy the ps/1 software files (os has a feature to copy the ps/1 software to floppies for a refresh/reinstall) but the computer is asking for 2mb unformated 3.5in floppies, something I dont have and finding them isn't a challenge but want something more permanent.
    My question is...if i was to plug this drive into my modern pc, select and copy all the files then copy them to the cf card. Then use the ibm diagnostic floppy to reinstall the ps/1 software.
    Will this work? Or is there another way to archive and copy thr old drive directly for it to work like it does with the spinning plater?

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    2MB unformatted = 1.44MB formatted. Should still be as plentiful as maggots on a piece of rotting meat.

    Find an old copy of Ghost; it should do the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    2MB unformatted = 1.44MB formatted. Should still be as plentiful as maggots on a piece of rotting meat.

    Find an old copy of Ghost; it should do the job.
    Well....thats what I thought too, but I put in a blank 1.44 floppy (both new and reformatted) and it gave an error saying "Please insert blank ibm 2mb floppy into drive a:" no matter what I did.

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    All I know is what's industry standard. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy...e_and_capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    All I know is what's industry standard. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floppy...e_and_capacity
    Hmm. Might have to look more into it and see why the software states and demands "2mb unformatted" diskette. Makes no sense to me but somewhere theres an answer. Till then need to find a way to copy the hdd to thr cf card

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    Well, your best bet is to use a third-part disk backup/restore utility such as disk_img or you can back up files using the MSBACKUP utility. Either will work on an old 80386SX system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New2vtgpc View Post
    Hmm. Might have to look more into it and see why the software states and demands "2mb unformatted" diskette.
    Quote Originally Posted by New2vtgpc View Post
    Well....thats what I thought too, but I put in a blank 1.44 floppy (both new and reformatted) and it gave an error saying "Please insert blank ibm 2mb floppy into drive a:" no matter what I did.
    FWIW reformatted ≠ unformatted.

    Are your 'new' disks formatted out of the box? It sure sounds like they are.

    If you don't have an unformatted disk you can make one by passing a magnet over it a few times. Test it by putting in the drive and do a DIR on it.
    PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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    It makes no sense to demand an "unformatted" disk. Most 3.5" HD floppies sold were factory-formatted for DOS; even the IBM branded ones.

    But who knows who really wrote the software...

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    Are you sure your floppy drive is actually working 100%?

    Typically when a program complains about a floppy not being blank or unformatted, it is really saying it sees files on it and it is to lazy to re-format it itself. Try doing an unconditional reformat of the floppy disk.

    If it is really looking for an "unformatted" disk, you could degauss the disk. The SuperCard Pro has a media tester/eraser that makes a disk completely unformatted. There should be tools under MS-DOS that can do similar. ImageDisk under DOS has an "Erase Disk" option, but I haven't tried that. You should at least be able to use ImageDisk on DOS to write some non 512-byte sector image so it looks unformatted to any DOS based software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New2vtgpc View Post
    if i was to plug this drive into my modern pc, select and copy all the files then copy them to the cf card.
    I like this plan myself... Although if it's only 120MB it probably doesn't support LBA and therefore would not work on a USB-IDE adaptor. You'd have to break out a 40-pin IDE cable (it is IDE right?). But that would be the fastest way to backup all your files and copy them to the CF card.

    If there is any kind of nonstandard partition/filesystem that wouldn't be preserved by simply copying the files, you could also use a sector editor to dump an image of the whole disk.

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