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    Hi,

    New to this forum. I have a couple questions that I hope someone can help...

    1) I am running some old machinery that uses both a parallel and serial port connection. Our last laptop with a parallel and serial port died. We've tried parallel-to-USB and serial-to-USB adapters, they don't work.
    Can anyone tell me the last laptop to have an on-board parallel & serial port? Note, must be on-board, not a docking station service.

    2) I was doing some research on my question above, and I encountered this thread on the forums here on the subject:
    http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/i...p/t-39322.html
    If you scroll down to the bottom of that thread, the 4th to last answer, by ajacocks on October 2, 2013, 11:39AM, he says this in part of his reply:

    >I have Windows 7 64-bit on a Core2Duo machine. It fully supports the on-board ECP parallel port (hanging off of the LPC bus at LPT1) and even PnP auto-detected the HP Laserjet 4MP that is plugged into it! I don't think Windows 8 dropped support either.

    If I can't find a suitable laptop w/parallel&serial, that sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, Can anyone provide more info on what the make/model might be of that machine? I wonder if it's even a laptop though.

    Thanks,

    Joe

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    The Dell D600 and D800 laptops have both hardware serial and parallel on the back panel.

    If you have trouble finding one, I have a nearly new D600 with 64 GB PATA SSD I could part with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoJoPo View Post
    The Dell D600 and D800 laptops have both hardware serial and parallel on the back panel.

    If you have trouble finding one, I have a nearly new D600 with 64 GB PATA SSD I could part with.
    Hi, I appreciate the reply. I did find that the Dell D610 also has a on-board serial & parallel. I was hoping to find something new & more powerful, but haven't found anything so far.

    What price on the D600? Please email me if possible. Thanks,

    Joe (joemagiera at Ameritech dot net)
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    What program(s) do you need to run on this?
    PM me if you're looking for 3" or 5" floppy disks. EMail For everything else, Take Another Step

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    The program is called “Max Loader” by EETools. That’s not the problem, the program will work from Windows 3.1 to Windows 10, 32-bit or 64-bit, USB or parallel. The device is an EPROM burner. I tried various parallel-to-USB adapters with no success. I tried a parallel card in a desk top, no success.

    I’d like the “last laptop” in hopes of getting something reasonably powerful, fast, etc.

    I will admit that a docking station did work, but it’s a pain to be moving around the docking station a lot. And the last docking station broke before the laptop died.

    I have another EPROM burner with different capabilities that works on a serial port, and I have heard that one will work on a serial-to-USB adapter, but the parallel device is more important at this time.

    Joe

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    The "Ultrabase" docking stations for Thinkpad laptops had Parallel ports at least through the T60/T61 generation, so if you don't need it strictly "built in" that *may* work. I wouldn't swear for certain that the port on those docking stations isn't technically interfaced via USB, although looking at the datasheets linked off this page about another parallel/serial option they sold for the same laptops it looks like it may well be interfaced off the LPC bus, which should make it native compatible.

    You *may*, if you look hard enough, be able to find a Core Duo/Duo2 generation laptop that has these ports natively built in but I'm pretty sure that's going to be the end of the line. A Core Duo laptopsis, sure, potentially twice as fast as a Pentium M machine like a Dell D600, but it's still going to be a bottom-feeder by today's standards, alas.

    They do sell ExpressCard parallel ports, if you have a more modern laptop that still has an ExpressCard port you could give that a try if whatever software you're running can deal with a PCI-interfaced port, but I'd caution that Expresscard connectors also have USB lines and a lot of cards for it use them instead of the PCI connections, so it may act just like a regular USB dongle.
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    I have a Elnec LabProg+ universal programmer that has to be connected to the LPT port. When I bought a new Asus laptop in 2010, the old one died, I completely forgot about the LPT port until it was too late. I tried USB-to-LPT and an Express-bus card with LPT but those didn't work. I needed the programmer when visiting computer meetings and hauling a PC there was a bit too much. So at the end I was able to find a D610.

    Regarding docking stations: I have a Dell (from my work) and when placed on a docking station, I can use my programmer. Regarding a parallel card: I have an Asus board with a PCI-Express LPT card and that works fine as well. The reason I think that this docking station and this card work is that the on-board LPT ports can be detected directly by the BIOS and can be found back in the BIOS table starting at 0040:0008. My programmer expects to see real LPT compatible hardware and that is not possible when using USB.
    With kind regards / met vriendelijke groet, Ruud Baltissen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruud View Post
    My programmer expects to see real LPT compatible hardware and that is not possible when using USB.
    That's why i keep a few old P3 and lower laptops around because they have real Serial / Parallel ports, I have several programmers serial and LPT though for some time now i have been using an old Thin client with real serial / parallel ports to run them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruud View Post
    I have a Elnec LabProg+ universal programmer that has to be connected to the LPT port. When I bought a new Asus laptop in 2010, the old one died, I completely forgot about the LPT port until it was too late. I tried USB-to-LPT and an Express-bus card with LPT but those didn't work. I needed the programmer when visiting computer meetings and hauling a PC there was a bit too much. So at the end I was able to find a D610.
    I guess a D610 will do and they are easy enough to find on ebay. I was hoping for something a little newer/faster/powerful.

    So I take it either you're satisfied using a D610 or you couldn't find any laptops newer either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joemagiera View Post
    So I take it either you're satisfied using a D610 or you couldn't find any laptops newer either?
    I am satisfied. But that didn't keep me from looking for yet another laptop but I didn't find anything newer or better.
    With kind regards / met vriendelijke groet, Ruud Baltissen

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