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    GiGaBiTe, I admit that solar lights and moonshine do sound somehow related.
    Still, referring to Amazon as a black market sounds somewhat awkward.
    Now we feel Haunted Living with the feeling that perhaps the LED strings were sold by the oriental Al Capone of LED lights.

    ABS plastic? 750F? I don't know about that...
    I had noticed that this plastic fades colors and breaks down with only the help of the great outdoors and time

    These LED lights are hardly the piece de resistance.
    I must have used the wrong words, perhaps I should have said,
    Dead Haloween lights impedance.

    However you look at it, these lights grow o-LED fast.

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    Instead of complaining about the poor quality of a consumer item, why not just spring for a commercial solar light with a LiPo battery and high-efficiency solar panel? They're making headway in municipal markets because they cost less to install and operate.

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    Sorry Chuck(G), I admit, this has been mostly been about products that no longer work and how they failed.
    At the moment, I have no success stories to follow up with.

    It would be nice to hear something positive.

    Chuck(G), perhaps you could be the light at the end of the tunnel.
    Will you do a tear down and review when your solar light fails?

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    Sure, no problem. When it fails...

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    You're a life saver Chuck(G) .
    I look forward to an epic review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watlers_world View Post
    Still, referring to Amazon as a black market sounds somewhat awkward.
    What's awkward about it? Amazon is a completely unregulated marketplace. Counterfeit and bait & switch items are rampant, as well as dangerous products that have no business in the consumer space. Amazon doesn't care at all as long as they get their cut of the profits. Ebay and Aliexpress is largely the same, here be dragons. If you're completely oblivious to dangerous items, like most of the public is, there's a very good chance you'll end up buying something dangerous and suffering the consequences because of it.

    Unlike brick and mortar stores which are required by consumer protection laws to certify products as safe for consumer use, a large portion of Amazon is stuff shipped directly from China to your door. None of it is tested, which is why we have people with exploding laptop batteries, battery powered skateboards, scooters and bikes that catch on fire and burn houses down, as well as hazardous UV "disinfecting" devices that cause people to go blind from leaving them plugged in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watlers_world View Post
    GiGaBiTe, I admit that solar lights and moonshine do sound somehow related.
    Still, referring to Amazon as a black market sounds somewhat awkward.
    Now we feel Haunted Living with the feeling that perhaps the LED strings were sold by the oriental Al Capone of LED lights.

    ABS plastic? 750F? I don't know about that...
    I had noticed that this plastic fades colors and breaks down with only the help of the great outdoors and time

    These LED lights are hardly the piece de resistance.
    I must have used the wrong words, perhaps I should have said,
    Dead Haloween lights impedance.

    However you look at it, these lights grow o-LED fast.
    GiGaBiTe is correct. If they are made of ABS, their thermal decomposition temp in indeed 750 F, and the constituent chemicals of this process are indeed carcinogenic.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiGaBiTe View Post
    What's awkward about it? Amazon is a completely unregulated marketplace. Counterfeit and bait & switch items are rampant, as well as dangerous products that have no business in the consumer space. Amazon doesn't care at all as long as they get their cut of the profits. Ebay and Aliexpress is largely the same, here be dragons.
    I completely agree, and there is plenty of research to prove all of these situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiGaBiTe View Post
    Unlike brick and mortar stores which are required by consumer protection laws to certify products as safe for consumer use, a large portion of Amazon is stuff shipped directly from China to your door. None of it is tested, which is why we have people with exploding laptop batteries, battery powered skateboards, scooters and bikes that catch on fire and burn houses down, as well as hazardous UV "disinfecting" devices that cause people to go blind from leaving them plugged in.
    The only bit I disagree about is the "brick and mortar stores" bit. If it's a dollar store, buyer still beware, they are well known for being places where counterfeit items are common, which can be extremely dangerous. Any sizable B&M store chain, even Walmart, etc... I would have faith in the integrity of their supply chains, for the most part. Any store/chain can be hit by e.coli, salmonella, etc... and it has nothing to do with that store/chain.

    If one is going to buy something from a dollar store, especially anything you are going to put in or on your person, ensure that the item in question is a size, quantity, etc... that is actually made by that company. Also check the small print on the product for anything that looks off, such as a misspelling or a reference to a company or division in a company that doesn't exist. I suggest using a phone app that can scan the UPC. Typically, the UPC codes, when referenced against a national database, if they are counterfeit, will either show up as a different product, or as completely invalid.
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    Bottom line: almost all consumer electronics/electrics are made in the Far East; with perhaps the exception of Japan and Korea, it's all very inconsistent in quality and almost always involves parts made from PVC or ABS.

    The consumer market is brutal--a few cents cheaper in production is a significant advantage when spread over millions of units. Product design appears to be under- or just-barely-adquate engineering. The market is divided between the inferior or barely-adequate product and the boutique (e.g. is a plastic Dyson vacuum really worth the whopping cost?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck(G) View Post
    Bottom line: almost all consumer electronics/electrics are made in the Far East; with perhaps the exception of Japan and Korea, it's all very inconsistent in quality and almost always involves parts made from PVC or ABS.

    The consumer market is brutal--a few cents cheaper in production is a significant advantage when spread over millions of units. Product design appears to be under- or just-barely-adquate engineering. The market is divided between the inferior or barely-adequate product and the boutique (e.g. is a plastic Dyson vacuum really worth the whopping cost?)
    Sounds about right to me.

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    ABS breaks down over time in normal Ohio weather.
    And I fear that if you heat ABS even to much lower temperatures, it will start to produce carcinogenic gasses.
    But please don't make yourself sick trying to prove me wrong.

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