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Thread: Grumble. It's enough to make one change distros

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    Default Grumble. It's enough to make one change distros

    About a week ago, I upgraded all of my Ubuntu systems from 18.04 to 20.04. Currently, I'm on 20.04.1 LTS.

    Now for the griping.

    I was astounded to discover that my /etc/network/interfaces file was being completely ignored, the system going through DHCP to get an IP address even thoughNetwork Manager has been disabled). My systems are on static IPs--it helps when ftp-ing between systems (not necessarily Linux) to remember them by IP.

    I discovered that the traditional (for decades) interface specification has been changed to something called "netplan" which uses a Python file to specify interfaces. No warning about this during upgrade, by the way. The stuff in /etc/network/interfaces is apparently now only for decoration.

    And then my integrated audio, a Realtek ALC662 has gone silent. Alsamixer shows it, but pavucontrol shows only the dummy output device. I can bypass this using a USB audio adapter, but you can hear my quiet cursing from across town.

    Honest, these "changes for the heckuvit" are really starting to get to me. I wonder how difficult it would be to revert to a Debian distro.

    Old man grumbling...

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    Those are some rather significant changes that they should have made quite clear before upgrading.

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    These changes are actually listed in the release notes of 19.10 and 20.04. While I understand the grumble, one should really read the release notes before upgarding a system used daily. Besides that: welcome to the kind of problems most people say only Windows users have.

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    I've downloaded a live distro of Debian and will investigate moving sideways. I want more stability in my life. Bleeding-edge doesn't interest me all that much. I've got Buster installed on a couple of 32-bit systems already, so it won't be a terrible change.

    It seems like yesterday that the whole Network Manager idea was made the default. So it must be obvious to the dimmest bulb in the package that writing network configuration in Python is easier than writing a simple "interfaces" text file.

    Besides, I received a note that 20.04 was available and that all I need do was "do-release-upgrade" and everything would be presto-change-o magic. Silly me. Good thing that I keep /home on a separate partition.

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    Sadly some bit of Linux seem to be going down the "change for changes sake" route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g4ugm View Post
    Sadly some bit of Linux seem to be going down the "change for changes sake" route.
    SystemD cancer is taking over everything.

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    I worked on an embedded system and it used systemd for everything. I had a hell of a time turning things off and trying to setup DHCP and static IP fall back. TLS keys, email, starting services, logging, all different. Very annoying all the changes. I also hear that they want to change the user home directories to systemd. I'm not loving systemd, it changes so many things and it only moves the complexity not solving it.

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