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    Believe it or not, I was a big OS/2 user. I started with 2.11 on a 486 and struggled my way through Warp 3 with Fixpack 30 something ... I only finally retired that machine 2 or 3 years ago.

    Great, now I'm off topic. ;-0

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    And to make this thread even more off-topic, OS/2 tended to be the first operating system former Amiga owners looked at when they felt forced to migrate to a PC in the early-mid 1990's.

    I think it is a good move by the moderators to include a sub-category for 386 and 486 computers. Those offended by the thought of a 486 as vintage don't have to read it, and those newbies who consider anything older than two years obsolete will at last find an on-topic place for discussing what they figure is "very old". It also bridges how 68040 based Amigas, Atari TT/Falcon, Macintosh etc have been on-topic for years, but 80486 PCs have been off-topic. Sometimes, people even post about early PPC Macintoshes in that subsection, which strictly speaking is just as out of the forum scope as early Pentiums are.

    As other people indicated, this forum is a bit of jack of all trades, and I'm sure for almost every topic presented here, you could find another forum, mailing list, newsgroup or other expertise that specialises in exactly that topic, but in which every other subject would be off-topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlsson View Post
    And to make this thread even more off-topic, OS/2 tended to be the first operating system former Amiga owners looked at when they felt forced to migrate to a PC in the early-mid 1990's.
    That and BeOS, another great OS crushed under the tank-treads of the M$ juggernaut..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbbrutman View Post
    Use 'Later PCs' for 386s and 486s.
    That list should include 286s.

    Not just sarcasm: in my opinion, the 286 started the modern* era, therefore it's not vintage. Old, yes.

    * No, I won't get into a pissing war about the definition of "modern" because that can be argued emotionally and technically, just as much as what's non-modern a.k.a. vintage. All that's important is that I am right and Erik is probably wrong.

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    But it's still 16-bit. Lets just say that Later PC's should cover 32-bit systems.

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    Ah, so many versions of 'modern era' though. The 286 was groundbreaking because unlike the previous 16 bit chip in the line it had memory management features which enabled OSes with paging and extended memory. But the design/implementation was pretty bad, and most of those features were redone (but the original version kept for compatibility) with the 386. Most 286s were used to run DOS faster.

    The 386 is the real ground breaker here. It has 32 bits and usable memory management which enabled all of the modern OSes - OS/2 2.x, Win 95, 98, NT, Linux, etc.

    The 386 was really too slow for normal people to put up with. The 486 repackaged the 386 and added a cache to improve the performance. It's with the 486 that we finally see the unwashed masses buying and using machines at home.

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    "the unwashed masses" love it!

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    what threads can post 95 and 98 stuff, if any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by illannani View Post
    what threads can post 95 and 98 stuff, if any?
    This thread was created 9 years ago and hasn't really been updated.
    "Pentium (First Generation)" was added, and Win 95/98 based computers should be right at home in there.

    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...st-Generation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpidersWeb View Post
    This thread was created 9 years ago and hasn't really been updated.
    "Pentium (First Generation)" was added, and Win 95/98 based computers should be right at home in there.

    http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcfo...st-Generation)
    Depends on the class of the machine. There are lots of 486s that run 95 and some that run 98

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