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This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

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We need suggestions, from you, on user titles

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    We need suggestions, from you, on user titles

    Currently this forum has only three user titles:

    Junior Member - 0 through 29 posts
    Member - 30 through 99
    Senior Member - 100+

    To me these feel like generic out of the box titles, and I would like to change and expand them, but I am not sure what to use. So I figured I would poll all of you and see what kind of suggestions come of this.

    Please respond to this announcement with your suggestion, and post counts to reach them. I will tall them all up and use what are suggested to create a poll for everyone to vote on.

    IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
    IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
    Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

    #2
    I'll go with "Mister".
    Reach me: vcfblackhole _at_ protonmail dot com.

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      #3
      I don't feel this is even important enough to consider.
      PDP-8 and PDP-11 enthusiast. But enjoy most older PC stuff too.

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        #4
        Whatever you decide I hope "Grand Poobah" makes the list somewhere.
        My Retro-computing YouTube Channel (updates... eventually?): Paleozoic PCs Also: Blogspot

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          #5
          Originally posted by tradde View Post
          I don't feel this is even important enough to consider.
          I disagree, we are a community of people with similar interests, so democratizing this kind of thing is very important as it helps us not forget this. Yes these titles are of little actual consequence, but perhaps they can add a little bit more community here.

          That said, if no one really has any input on this and/or cares about it, then I probably won't bother to make the change.

          IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
          IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
          Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10

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            #6
            I like the idea of custom titles instead of just the defaults. I’m not sure what they should be, but perhaps if you hit a certain threshold, time or posts or something, is there an option to create your own? I always got a chuckle out of Brutman’s associate cat herder or whatever it was. I’d be curious to see what other come up with.

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              #7
              Can I nominatate myself as "kind of a big deal" ?

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                #8
                Originally posted by lutiana View Post

                I disagree, we are a community of people with similar interests, so democratizing this kind of thing is very important as it helps us not forget this. Yes these titles are of little actual consequence, but perhaps they can add a little bit more community here.
                You want to know what adds community? A forum that works. In the last while those who opted to leave this community has not done so because they lacked a title under their name.
                Fix the four month old jank before slapping cosmetics on that may or may not break again once you fix the main problems.
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                  #9
                  Ok, how about something along the lines of:
                  New Collector, Expanding Stash, and Official Horder?
                  New Poster, Commenter, Full Time Critic?
                  Just Hacking a Few Things, Staring At The Screen, Lives On The Grid?
                  Trainee, Bit Twiddler, Lives Among the Bits?
                  3.5", 5.25", 8"?

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                    #10
                    Hey look the locations came back. Nice.

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                      #11
                      16-bit programmer
                      8-bit programmer
                      Hexpad user
                      Front panel user
                      Paper tape loader
                      Drum memory specialist.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jafir View Post
                        Hey look the locations came back. Nice.
                        Thats great! Just noticed.

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                          #13
                          I would think the top title is going to be Luddite.
                          What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
                          Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
                          Boxed apps and games for the above systems
                          Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unknown_K View Post
                            I would think the top title is going to be Luddite.
                            There can be only one!

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                              #15
                              I actually quite like the current titles. I've been on forums in the past were I've been a little uncomfortable with the titles. Hopefully, if any changes are made consideration will be given to how people with a range of personalities and backgrounds might feel about them.
                              TechTinkering : Website / YouTube (Retro computers, VIC-20, CP/M, Programming)
                              Latest Video: Word Processors on the VIC-20

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