Forum Rules and Etiquette

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This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

This forum has been around in this format for over 15 years. These rules and guidelines help us maintain a healthy and active community, and we moderate the forum to keep things on track. Please familiarize yourself with these rules and guidelines.

Rule 1: Remain civil and respectful

There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.

Rule 2: Stay close to the original topic being discussed
  • If you are starting a new thread choose a reasonable sub-forum to start your thread. (If you choose incorrectly don't worry, we can fix that.)
  • If you are responding to a thread, stay on topic - the original poster was trying to achieve something. You can always start a new thread instead of potentially "hijacking" an existing thread.

Rule 3: Contribute something meaningful

To put things in engineering terms, we value a high signal to noise ratio. Coming here should not be a waste of time.
  • This is not a chat room. If you are taking less than 30 seconds to make a post then you are probably doing something wrong. A post should be on topic, clear, and contribute something meaningful to the discussion. If people read your posts and feel that their time as been wasted, they will stop reading your posts. Worse yet, they will stop visiting and we'll lose their experience and contributions.
  • Do not bump threads.
  • Do not "necro-post" unless you are following up to a specific person on a specific thread. And even then, that person may have moved on. Just start a new thread for your related topic.
  • Use the Private Message system for posts that are targeted at a specific person.

Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

Here are some obvious examples of when you should not reply to a thread and use the PM system instead:
  • "PM Sent!": Do not tell the rest of us that you sent a PM ... the forum software will tell the other person that they have a PM waiting.
  • "How much is shipping to ....": This is a very specific and directed question that is not of interest to anybody else.

Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.

Reporting problematic posts

If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.

If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.

New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.

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  • Don't make people guess at what you are trying to say; we are not mind readers. Be clear and concise.
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    It turned out to be a capacitor and the system was almost 4 lbs low. Keeping this this going is expensive. I think its time to upgrade. BTW it was a GE capacitor.

    Lutiana if your ram level pans out change 1KB to 256 or 512 bytes... I think thats a better starting place than 1kb.


      I might be nice if we had some way to post messages about users. You know short 1 liners. It should be such that the person can delete messages that they feel are in bad taste or don't want.
      Sometimes, I'd like to post things like "respected knowledge" or "great for Commodore Pets ". Also, the user could post lings for them selves, like "I don't fix PCs" or such. One could then click on a users and see what others said about them or what they said about themselves.
      Like I said, the user should be able to remove anything they find offensive. The intent is to keep things positive. You know like the saying goes, "I you can say anything good, don't say anything at all".
      Anyway, such a thing would have more meaning than things like "Senior Member". I feel in some ways I'm more than a Senior Member and in some ways less of a Senior Member.


        Should have the area of interest/expertise as well as a 'post count' based

        So something user selectable like hardware guru, software guru, repair specialist
        Current fleet
        TRS80 Model 4 - BBC B - Tatung Einstein - PCW9512 - PET 3032 - C64 - ZX81 - Spectrum 48K - Amiga A500 - Apple II europlus - Apple iMAC G3. Sharp MZ-80K. - IBM 5160 XT - Multibus 286/10 - Micro PDP 11/73 - Rainbow PC100A - MicroVax II - MicroVAX 3100, 3300, VAX 4000 VLC & 4000 Model 96 - AlphaStation 225 Apricot PC - Apple Performa 6200 - Apple Mac IIcx - Osborne 1 - ACT Sirius 1


          People can lists interests and specialties if we had an area for signature like other forums. Should have nothing to do with post count and should be written by the user.
          What I collect: 68K/Early PPC Mac, DOS/Win 3.1 era machines, Amiga/ST, C64/128
          Nubus/ISA/VLB/MCA/EISA cards of all types
          Boxed apps and games for the above systems
          Analog video capture cards/software and complete systems


            TBH, tl;dr - i didn't read all the submissions, and there seemed to be some off-topic posts too.

            As for user titles, i don't really care a great deal, whatever comes out of the box is fine with me. However, many forums give users the power to create their own title, so I'd suggest that once you pass a certain number of posts (let's say 500), users can then automatically have the permission for a custom title should they wish.


              I still don't see the need as a title really does nothing here. But if others like it then so be it. Didn't seem to do much before the change though. Maybe the above post has merits to allow the user to set their own title after a specified number of posts.
              PDP-8 and PDP-11 enthusiast. But enjoy most older PC stuff too.


                Originally posted by tradde View Post
                I still don't see the need as a title really does nothing here. But if others like it then so be it. Didn't seem to do much before the change though. Maybe the above post has merits to allow the user to set their own title after a specified number of posts.
                The only real use I can see for them is that it gives you a sense of how many posts a user has made, which could be handy in some situations. But you are right, for the most part they are cosmetic. I just figured why not make them on topic cosmetic things, if they have to be there, why not.

                IBM 5160 - 360k, 1.44Mb Floppies, NEC V20, 8087-3, 45MB MFM Hard Drive, Vega 7 Graphics, IBM 5154 Monitor running MS-DOS 5.00
                IBM PCJr Model 48360 640kb RAM, NEC V20,, jrIDE Side Cart, 360kb Floppy drives running MS-DOS 5.00
                Evergreen Am5x86-133 64Mb Ram, 8gb HDD, SB16 in a modified ATX case running IBM PC-DOS 7.10


                  Then I would vote for some default title for a new user up to whatever limit is decided. Then I prefer the user to be able to make his own title. Seems they will pick something appropriate I would hope. But this may not be as easy to implement.
                  PDP-8 and PDP-11 enthusiast. But enjoy most older PC stuff too.


                    Woohoo, signatures!
                    Toshiba T1000 w/ modem & memory upgrade
                    Compaq Deskpro 4/25iS (Win3.1)
                    Apple //e

                    wanted: dx2odp66 or similar (169 pin overdrive chip)