Forum Rules and Etiquette

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This forum is part of our mission to promote the preservation of vintage computers through education and outreach. (In real life we also run events and have a museum.) We encourage you to join us, participate, share your knowledge, and enjoy.

This forum has been around in this format for over 15 years. These rules and guidelines help us maintain a healthy and active community, and we moderate the forum to keep things on track. Please familiarize yourself with these rules and guidelines.

Rule 1: Remain civil and respectful

There are several hundred people who actively participate here. People come from all different backgrounds and will have different ways of seeing things. You will not agree with everything you read here. Back-and-forth discussions are fine but do not cross the line into rude or disrespectful behavior.

Conduct yourself as you would at any other place where people come together in person to discuss their hobby. If you wouldn't say something to somebody in person, then you probably should not be writing it here.

This should be obvious but, just in case: profanity, threats, slurs against any group (sexual, racial, gender, etc.) will not be tolerated.

Rule 2: Stay close to the original topic being discussed
  • If you are starting a new thread choose a reasonable sub-forum to start your thread. (If you choose incorrectly don't worry, we can fix that.)
  • If you are responding to a thread, stay on topic - the original poster was trying to achieve something. You can always start a new thread instead of potentially "hijacking" an existing thread.

Rule 3: Contribute something meaningful

To put things in engineering terms, we value a high signal to noise ratio. Coming here should not be a waste of time.
  • This is not a chat room. If you are taking less than 30 seconds to make a post then you are probably doing something wrong. A post should be on topic, clear, and contribute something meaningful to the discussion. If people read your posts and feel that their time as been wasted, they will stop reading your posts. Worse yet, they will stop visiting and we'll lose their experience and contributions.
  • Do not bump threads.
  • Do not "necro-post" unless you are following up to a specific person on a specific thread. And even then, that person may have moved on. Just start a new thread for your related topic.
  • Use the Private Message system for posts that are targeted at a specific person.

Rule 4: "PM Sent!" messages (or, how to use the Private Message system)

This forum has a private message feature that we want people to use for messages that are not of general interest to other members.

In short, if you are going to reply to a thread and that reply is targeted to a specific individual and not of interest to anybody else (either now or in the future) then send a private message instead.

Here are some obvious examples of when you should not reply to a thread and use the PM system instead:
  • "PM Sent!": Do not tell the rest of us that you sent a PM ... the forum software will tell the other person that they have a PM waiting.
  • "How much is shipping to ....": This is a very specific and directed question that is not of interest to anybody else.

Why do we have this policy? Sending a "PM Sent!" type message basically wastes everybody else's time by making them having to scroll past a post in a thread that looks to be updated, when the update is not meaningful. And the person you are sending the PM to will be notified by the forum software that they have a message waiting for them. Look up at the top near the right edge where it says 'Notifications' ... if you have a PM waiting, it will tell you there.

Rule 5: Copyright and other legal issues

We are here to discuss vintage computing, so discussing software, books, and other intellectual property that is on-topic is fine. We don't want people using these forums to discuss or enable copyright violations or other things that are against the law; whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. Do not use our resources for something that is legally or morally questionable.

Our discussions here generally fall under "fair use." Telling people how to pirate a software title is an example of something that is not allowable here.

Reporting problematic posts

If you see spam, a wildly off-topic post, or something abusive or illegal please report the thread by clicking on the "Report Post" icon. (It looks like an exclamation point in a triangle and it is available under every post.) This send a notification to all of the moderators, so somebody will see it and deal with it.

If you are unsure you may consider sending a private message to a moderator instead.

New user moderation

New users are directly moderated so that we can weed spammers out early. This means that for your first 10 posts you will have some delay before they are seen. We understand this can be disruptive to the flow of conversation and we try to keep up with our new user moderation duties to avoid undue inconvenience. Please do not make duplicate posts, extra posts to bump your post count, or ask the moderators to expedite this process; 10 moderated posts will go by quickly.

New users also have a smaller personal message inbox limit and are rate limited when sending PMs to other users.

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  • Don't make people guess at what you are trying to say; we are not mind readers. Be clear and concise.
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VCF Swap Meet in Wall, NJ

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    VCF Swap Meet in Wall, NJ

    Announcing our second Vintage Computer Federation Swap Meet!
    Last year's Swap Meet was very successful so ... we are doing it again!

    DATE: April 24, 2021 (RAIN DATE: April 25, 2021)
    TIME: 8AM to 2PM
    Parking Lot on Monmouth Boulevard, Wall, NJ
    Across from Infoage Museum and Brookdale College
    GPS location: ( 40.1848793,-74.0630848 )
    PHONE: 732-722-5015

    Cost is per space. First space is $20, each additional space is $10.
    You can park in your space and sell out of your vehicle.

    Write in the note section:
    [your name]
    VCF Swap Meet 4/24/2021
    Number of spaces:


    * Reservation doesn't guarantee sales.
    * The Vintage Computer Federation is only providing a space, vendors must bring their own tables, tents, cars.
    * In case of inclement weather, money paid will be refunded.
    * All items that you bring must be taken with you. No items are to be left behind.
    * Port-o-potty on site.

    I'll be there!

    - Alex


      In this day and age you're worried about people leaving vintage stuff behind

      Glad to hear it's back again. I may even try to sell some stuff. But I'm a comin'


        The Swap Meet was a huge success! The weather was perfect again, there were plenty of vendors and customers and great deals!
        I had a great time, my second time as a vendor and look forward to more VCF events!


          From the pictures I saw on FB, etc. it looked like a lot of great stuff at realistic prices. Probably good it was so far away, or I'd probably have that Sun E3500 at my house!


            The meet was a success for me. I was able to free my basement of a lot of old hardware, books, and trade show swag. The only problem is that I found even more last weekend. Now I have to wait for the fall meet.


              Had a blast. I think this needs to be a quarterly event!

              Or maybe 3x a year plus the VCF East Expo...


                I went and it was awesome meeting everyone! I'm trying to figure out how to get more involved. Any suggestions? Any ways to get live updates on things going on? I'd love to be of help with moving buildings, etc.


                  Will there be another swap meet in Wall NJ before years end? I missed the one in may and the weather is good in the fall.


                    There’s discussion of having one later this year. We’ll update everyone as soon as a decision is reached.

                    - Alex


                      WooHoo! Count me in.


                        This is my first post. By chance I ran into some VCF guys at Applebees in Ocean Twp. I am looking forward to attending VCF East and hope to get more involved with the vintage computer community. I go by Vincent GD on Facebook and have been a frequent poster in Low End Mac trying to get an old StarMax Mac clone working. I recently brought my old IBM ThinkPad T22 back to life and look forward to more projects in the future.


                          Welcome, GVD_1! I hope to meet you at VCF, in two weeks.

                          - Alex


                            Hello an welcome! North Jersey huh. Pretty close to a bunch of us members. And dont worry, we wont hold the fact that you use facebook against you.. Much.

                            What machines do you have or are you a fan of?


                              Originally posted by ajacocks View Post
                              Welcome, GVD_1! I hope to meet you at VCF, in two weeks.

                              - Alex